Improper Jacking ... Body Damage?

[Hrtbeat1]

Well guys things don't look so good. I pulled all the carpet and jute padding out of the interior as a start to my stereo install. When I got the seats out and the front carpet out I noticed that the floor pan under both seats was bent up in the corners near the seat belt assy. Not only that but the front of the floorboard on either outer forward corner is cracked. The drivers side isn't real bad but the passenger side took a pretty good shot.

I got to looking at the underside and could see where someone had placed a jack too far under the car and jacked it up. Nice circular dent on the rear part of each floor pan. I spent about two hours last night with body hammers and drifts straightening out the floor pans. I had almost forgot that I had these body tools its been so long since they have been used. I have to admit after I got done last night it looks pretty good. Not too bad for a shadetree body man. From the underside you can barely tell that it was bent.

The question is how should I go about repairing the front section ... this is fiberglass. I've got some ideas, but would like to know what you guys think. The passenger side has a crack that runs about 10 inches fore and aft (about half of it goes up the slope of the floorboard right along the moulded curve) a hole about the size of a quarter, and another crack that goes left to right about 3 inches. I had noticed this before but looking from the underside all I could see was black. Turns out it was the black rubber on the underside of the carpet. Of course the jute padding was soaked ... what a mess, not to mention stink.

In the rear section I started laying down some "Frost King" duct insulation. This was primarily for a heat barrier but I've seen threads that this stuff really works well as a sound barrier also. I have planned on laying out the whole interior with this stuff, another reason for pulling the carpet, ect out.

I will try and post some pics when I get home.

 

[ThunderVette]

Hi Hrtbeat1,
My vette's fiberglass part of floor pan was also cracked - what I did is completely sand it all and repaired puting two layers of Vettebond with fiberglass cloth, now I'm going to put everywhere that sound deadening stuff and renovate the whole carpeting...

 

[SoLow]

Smc

Drill a small hole at the end of each crack to stop it from spreading.Next grind a V along the crack like you would if you were going to weld it. Since it is under the carpet, scuff the area with coarse grit sandpaper so the resin will have something to bite into. Use fiberglass matting and not cloth so that you can alternate the glass runs for a strong patch...The ONE thing to remember is that you have to use EPOXY resin and NOT polyester resin as it will not stick.

Hope this helps :W

 

[Hrtbeat1]

Mas vidanya ThunderVette. Man we really are a global community. You must have the only C4 in Moscow. How cool is that.


After doing some further inspection I think its worse than I thought last night. The hole on the passenger side is roughly 2 inches. The drivers side is worse also its split around the edge about 2 inches coming aft and about 3 inches going to the right. It looks like somebody tried to "patch it" before there is a piece of metal on the outside riveted in place on both sides. I picked up some Dyna-Hair (the longstrand type) and some fiberglass mat today on the way home. The Dyna-Hair says that is is compatible with SMC. I've used this stuff before for repairs on fiberglass boats, and it works really well. I'm beginning to lean towards R&R with a new fiberglass floor panel, but I'll try this first.

The floor pans still need a little work from the outside, guess I'll have to get the jackstands out. They feel smooth, but I can do better. They are 200% better than they were though. Should have taken some before and after shots, but I was too fustrated last night. Pounding metal is always a good way to relieve fustration.

 

[rrubel]

Don't you mean Spasyba? Isn't Das Vidanya "goodbye"? And yes, I'm murdering the spelling...

I had the same crunched area at the front of my passenger floorboards. Since I'm not yet ready to do the carpet (good tip on the Frost King, btw - will have to remember that) I took a can of LOW-EXPANSION foam insulation and sprayed it into the hole, then trimmed the excess. Now water won't get in unless I go surfing (the stuff is porous but it takes a lot for water to penetrate all the way) and the lighter area under the car serves as a reminder to NOT JACK HERE!
[RICHR]

 

[gmjunkie]

Hrtbeat1, 74BigBlock will say junkie's been smokin it agine,Use Duck Tape!! But if you go as per SoLow's Instruction's You'll do just Fine!! As far as Pounding metal in the middle of the night, I'v been pounding metal so long, I can find better thing's to pound the bottom out of in the middle of the night!! junk!!

 

[Hrtbeat1]

Don't you mean Spasyba? Isn't Das Vidanya "goodbye"? And yes, I'm murdering the spelling...

Yea Rich I think you are right .... and yes I butchered the spelling too. Sorry to all our Russian friends, hopefully I didn't offend anyone.

(good tip on the Frost King, btw - will have to remember that)

Rich if you go to get it make sure its the kind with the foam. I stopped by Home Depot and the only kind they had was with a much thicker fiberglass insulation. Rain has a reply to a post in the C5 General section (Soundproofing mods) about doing the same thing with part numbers and how to find it. Basically go to the customer service desk at Lowes and ask them for their SKU# 28929, how many they have, and where its at. I did this and they told me they had 11 rolls, but had no idea as to where. The manager actually walked around with me looking .... "Well it should be right here" ... NOT. I actually found it in the plumbing section, after the manager gave up. I picked up 6 rolls for under $100, I'll probabally need more but I know where its at now. I've gone thru two rolls and haven't finished the rear compartment yet. My baby is looking pretty good in her "space suit." Now if I can just get her "ventilation" fixed.

 

[Hrtbeat1]

Hrtbeat1, 74BigBlock will say Use Duck Tape!!

I was gonna use some masking tape, but thought better of it

But if you go as per SoLow's Instruction's You'll do just Fine!!

Will do. Thanks SoLow

As far as Pounding metal in the middle of the night, I'v been pounding metal so long, I can find better thing's to pound the bottom out of in the middle of the night!! junk!!

The only thing wrong with that is you have to have a willing participant. I think I'm the preverbial bachelor. Heck if I had that I wouldn't need a Vette .... well maybe .

Thanks Junkie

 

[G Winter]

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I was gonna use some masking tape, but thought better of it



Will do. Thanks SoLow



The only thing wrong with that is you have to have a willing participant. I think I'm the preverbial bachelor. Heck if I had that I wouldn't need a Vette .... well maybe .

Thanks Junkie

You still need the vette in case a headache strikes.

Glenn

 

[Hrtbeat1]

You still need the vette in case a headache strikes.

Glenn

I think the Vette is the cause of the headache right now :L

 

[ThunderVette]

Mas vidanya ThunderVette. Man we really are a global community. You must have the only C4 in Moscow. How cool is that.

Privet (means Hi) Hrtbeat1. No doubts we are we are a community of UNIVERSAL scale
My beauty becomes cooler and cooler day by day since I'm working hard on it's complete rebuilt. Once it fininshed - I put fotos immideately. Here in Moscow we have just 20 (or close) C4s... It's a very turn-heads kind a car here.

Yea Rich I think you are right .... and yes I butchered the spelling too. Sorry to all our Russian friends, hopefully I didn't offend anyone.

No worries, at least GM didn't print C4 Manuals in Russian:cry

 

[Hrtbeat1]

My beauty becomes cooler and cooler day by day since I'm working hard on it's complete rebuilt. Once it fininshed - I put fotos immideately. Here in Moscow we have just 20 (or close) C4s... It's a very turn-heads kind a car here.

Privet ThunderVette

Are you going back to complete stock? That would be too cool. First NSRC C-4 in Moscow. Its a very turn heads kind of car anywhere.

Mine has seen many owners that did some bad things to her. She is living a better life now that we met. I guess fixing things like this are part of the "getting intimate"

 

[ThunderVette]

Privet ThunderVette
Are you going back to complete stock? That would be too cool. First NSRC C-4 in Moscow. Its a very turn heads kind of car anywhere.

Mine has seen many owners that did some bad things to her. She is living a better life now that we met. I guess fixing things like this are part of the "getting intimate"

Privet Hrtbeat1,
Yea it will be complete stock, except for exhuast - long tubes with emissions, and air filter will be open K/N.
Sometimes It gets so deep intimate that I'm afraid to use the fuel filler neck one day