Is this true or a myth

[rkscranton]

A good friend of mine who is the proud owner of a CTS-V 6 speed Cadillac 2004, apparently hit the market in January of 2004. He claims it is GM's fastest production car. As a proud owner of a 2002 Corvette Convertible, I claimed that GM's fastest production car is the Z06 Vette. I also believe my 2002 Convertible, would be a bit faster in the 1/4 mile and 0-60. Who wins this one? The CTS-V sounds pretty ferocious, with a 5.7 liter, (sound familiar) 400 HP and 6 speed trans.

 

[Rob]

A good friend of mine who is the proud owner of a CTS-V 6 speed Cadillac 2004, apparently hit the market in January of 2004. He claims it is GM's fastest production car. As a proud owner of a 2002 Corvette Convertible, I claimed that GM's fastest production car is the Z06 Vette. I also believe my 2002 Convertible, would be a bit faster in the 1/4 mile and 0-60. Who wins this one? The CTS-V sounds pretty ferocious, with a 5.7 liter, (sound familiar) 400 HP and 6 speed trans.

I believe that the 2002-2004 Z06 Corvette is the fastest production car that GM has ever built based upon 0-60 times. However, I believe the ZR-1 still holds the reigns for top speed unless the new C6 beats it there.

I think it's safe to say, your friend is wrong even though the CTS-V is certainly no slouch.

2004 Z06:

Engine
Type:V8
Displacement:5665 cc
Horsepower:405 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque:400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline:6500 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph:4.0 sec
0-100 mph:9.5 sec
Quarter Mile:12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Skidpad:0.99g
Top Speed:171 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph:104 ft
Slalom Speed:70.3 mph

2004 Cadillac CTSv
General Information
Price:$49,995
Miles Per Gallon:16/25 mpg
Curb Weight:3847 lbs
Layout:Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission:6-Speed Manual

Engine
Type:V8
Displacement:5665 cc
Horsepower:400 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque:395 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline:6500 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph:5.2 sec
0-100 mph:12.2 sec
Quarter Mile:13.7 sec @ 107 mph
Skidpad:0.90g
Top Speed:163 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph:118 ft
Slalom Speed:66.1 mph

 

[Roadfrog]

Man, I know it's just an opinion, but I just can't quite stomach a "perfomance" cadillac. It seems to me, Cadillac is in looking at the throes of death for the brand further down the road if GM doesn't do something a LOT more radical with it. Geez, I'll miss them....not. :L

I believe that the 2002-2004 Z06 Corvette is the fastest production car that GM has ever built based upon 0-60 times. However, I believe the ZR-1 still holds the reigns for top speed unless the new C6 beats it there.

I think it's safe to say, your friend is wrong even though the CTS-V is certainly no slouch.

2004 Z06:

Engine
Type:V8
Displacement:5665 cc
Horsepower:405 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque:400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline:6500 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph:4.0 sec
0-100 mph:9.5 sec
Quarter Mile:12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Skidpad:0.99g
Top Speed:171 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph:104 ft
Slalom Speed:70.3 mph

2004 Cadillac CTSv
General Information
Price:$49,995
Miles Per Gallon:16/25 mpg
Curb Weight:3847 lbs
Layout:Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission:6-Speed Manual

Engine
Type:V8
Displacement:5665 cc
Horsepower:400 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque:395 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline:6500 rpm

Performance
0-60 mph:5.2 sec
0-100 mph:12.2 sec
Quarter Mile:13.7 sec @ 107 mph
Skidpad:0.90g
Top Speed:163 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph:118 ft
Slalom Speed:66.1 mph

 

[JBsC5]

Just curious why you would think a performance image and performance product would damage Cadillacs sales for the future?

I believe that combining performance and luxury as in the CTS V series ..at a very competitive price will drive new buyers that are YOUNGER into the fold.

10 years ago I wouldn't have thought of cadillac or even a couple..

At 45 years old I'm thinking....That Cadillac CTS V series is one bad @ss ride.

Not enough to sell a Corvette but really liking the idea of one possibly as a daily driver down the road or one for my wife..

In either case I'd need or want dual clutch sequential technology to ease the transition of everyday Metro area traffic for me or if purchased for the wife to allow her to drive in automatic mode...

Not a flame but just curious why you thought the performance/luxury direction would hurt future sales..? I just never even thought of that perspective so I thought I'd ask.

Thanks in advance.

 

[JBsC5]

The corvette convertible is faster than the much heavier CTS V series..but its close. Automaic C5's on a roll would be a concern though since the V series driver could manually select the best gearing.

 

[Rob]

Man, I know it's just an opinion, but I just can't quite stomach a "perfomance" cadillac. It seems to me, Cadillac is in looking at the throes of death for the brand further down the road if GM doesn't do something a LOT more radical with it. Geez, I'll miss them....not. :L

I'm not sure I agree with you. I think Cadillac is on the right track and they need to continue improving the lineup down the same path they are on now.

Personally, I think Cadillac is in the process of positioning themselves to directly compete with BMW. I have a LOT of respect for BMW. In the last 4 years, I've gained a lot of respect for their style (admittedly, I'm not crazy with where Chris Bangle was taking the design -- ), their refinement, comfort, feel and sporty driving characteristics.

They have a full lineup that pulls at the wallets and heart-strings of just about all age groups. The 3-series is attractive to the younger crowd, while the 5 series is attractive to the family-oriented crowd, and the 7-series is attractive to the older, more well-to-do crowd.

Historically, Cadillac has been looked upon as an old-fart's car - big, overweight and barely able to get out of its own way.

That is simply no longer the case now.

While the radical, edgy styling of the new platform doesn't give me that warm cozy feeling that the BMW design does, it is nevertheless, interesting, and for the first time ever, Cadillac has managed to gain my attention, raise an eyebrow, and cause me to question if I may possibly own a CTS or CTS-V down the road.

The CTS is comparable to the BMW 3-series, while the CTS-V goes after the BMW M3. My hunch is that when the new STS comes out, it's going to set its sight on the 5-series BMWs.

As for the Cadillac XLR, I just saw another one on the road Sat. night and I have to say, damn, that car just looks totally *****in'. I love it!

 

[Tuna]

The local Caddy dealer is going to call me when they get their first 2005 STS next month - the wife and I are really considering it for our next "family" car. I'm liking what I see coming out of Caddilac these days.

 

[67HEAVEN]

Cadillac and racing goes together just fine.

http://www.gm.com/company/gm_exp_live/archived_events/lemans/about/bloodlines.html

 

[JasonFRC]

I had the opportunity to attend Car and Driver's One Lap of America when it came through Colorado.

I never really gave the Caddy CTS-V much thought til that day. There was one prepared by GM I believe running the event.

*gulp!* that car was seriously cool. It sounded like a open-header Corvette running down the back straight at PPIR.

I'm 32 years old, and I thought of Caddys as old man cars.

No More. When we look to replace the wife's Navigator, the CTS-V will certainly get a look from us.