Now for the Questions! LOL

[bobmanx]

Now for the Questions! Thanks

As I was told, "Be prepared for the Holley fuel bowls to leak after sitting unused", "they may leak a little or flood"! "The bowl gaskets dry out and when exposed to real Gas again they may not seal" ! They are allowing a small amount of gas to slowly seep out, and I have not tried to start the engine yet. What is the recomended method for dealing with this, other than "do not let it sit for a extended period of time again"?

Are new Holley float bowl gaskets available seperately? Keep tightening the screws and? What's best? New SS tank and fuel lines installed and Carb was rebuilt just prior to the car being stored and has not been run for at least two years.

The floor is open to suggestions . Dont want it to be a ongoing problem!

Stock 327/350 hp, 4 spd with AC. appears to be a stock Holley 4 barrel with stock air cleaner.

Thanks for the help and any suggestions.
Bob

 

[Brutal64]

The float bowl gaskets are available seperately. If you have an auto parts store that sells Holleys they should have them, or get yourself a Summit Racing catalog and order through them. Whatever you do, do not over tighten the screws, very easy to strip the threads.

Steve

 

[vettefinderjim]

Two years in not that long

Two years is not that long. I would pull the plugs. Squirt some mystery marval oil into the cylinders. Remove the coil wire. Gently bump the starter over a few revolutions per click. Then give it a real turn over. Reinstall the plugs, again turn the motor over till you see oil pressure on the gauge. All this time, do not touch the gas pedal. And have a friend standing over the engine visually checking the carburator looking for leaks. ( with a fire extingisher in hand) Off course, if gas starts spewing all over go back to page one, which is remove carb, and get it rebuilt.

Now if you are really concerned about engine wear after not being run in two years, then pull the distributor and using a small electric drill with an oil pump key( like a flat edge screw driver) turn the oil pump over till the oil pressue on the gague reads. You can do this manually, but it takes time and patience and lots of spinning.

Better yet, call me at 909-794-7905 and I can give you some phone numbers of some Orange County guys that are gear heads. Perhaps we can all come over and help you light the car up. Once the motor is running, then the carb problem will be easy to address.
Jim

 

[vigman]

The float bowl gaskets are no problem

The entire kit for rebuild is less than $80.00.

You could try the following, get a mustard bottle ( rinse it out & dry it). fill it with GAS.

then squirt it into the air horn vent tube.. this goes into the float bowl... so you are PRE FILLING the bowls before you even crank..

That was you can do a static leak test.. and let the seals... re seal.

I would tighten the 2 bowl gaskets before I did this.. firmly..but not a crush.. they are typically cork and will break.


Vig~

 

[vettefinderjim]

PUT VIGMAN ON THE GEARHEAD TEAM

See what happens here Bob,
Last week you couldn't spell "gearhead", now you are one.

 

[vigman]

Well Bad Holley news for me

While getting my boat re comissioned the float 's stuck OPEN and NO amount of Bowl whacking could free em up..

The good news... a rebuild is easy

Hey Bob... I'll be rebuilding MINE tomorrow..
I have the SCOOP for YOU on the HOW TO DO IT.

Vig~

 

[vigman]

Good Holley news

To rebuild a holley carb...

You find the LIST number stamped into the air horn... ( EG list 3310-2 1165)

This means a Holley 3310 carb ( rev 2)

According to the Holley book the rev 2 started in 1976.. but it's younger brother was on the 66 427 Vettes... but was also used in Camaros
Chevelles both Big & small block.

The Holley rebuild kit a whopping $35.71

and it will take about 3 hrs and 2 beers from start to Vroom.


FYI

Vig~

 

[vigman]

Well good news Bad news

The Carb rebuild went well... 2.5 hrs no beers

BUT

the fuel I had in the boat tank is really skanky

So I went to get more fuel..but left the ign on in the boat...Bye bye coil... put 5 gal into the boat.. changed coils... and still no runny... it will run from a prime.. but peters out.. So off to get some more fuel ( to dilute the skank) and some fuel stablizer...back out I go....

I forgot how much FUN this was YEECH!


Vig~

 

[vigman]

Ok final score today Vig 2 boat 1

So she purring away again... with nice new shinny chrome bits.. 2 charged Batts rebuilt carb..New fuel... new coil... replaced fuel feeder.. Replaced rocker arm gasket.. she was a leakin... New coil... New points & condenser..New plugs... New cover for Boat. running fine on the trailer... WAITING for the buyer Sunday.

BUT

The GROOVY fuel pressure gauge wont let the engine cowling CLOSE ALL THE WAY... DOH!

Tommorow... groovy gauge re plumbing & Clean/ detail.


Vig~

 

[bobmanx]

Vig, I thought that the "Fun Was Supposed To Start" when the Vette got home, not before it was even loaded into the transport trailer!!! LOL Glad to hear that you got the boat ready, how much more room do you need to clear before the Vette arrives? All I had to do was clean out and reshuffle the junk in the garage to get enough room. The garage needed it any way!!


Now where can we buy some real Vette parts without having to go DEEPER and DEEPER and DEEPERand DEEPER into debt? Looking at catalogs is enough to depress anyone trying to put a Vette back in shape. There has to be a better way to get parts then by having to sell the car to afford the parts! LOL
So let us in on who and where, and who and where not to use, politely please. Who is the best source/s?
"Service is Not just what the Bull does to the Cow"
Thanks Bob

 

[vigman]

Bob .. this is the pre -fun training

If I get the boat ready & sold that's one step closer.. I as well have to shuffle some stuff..but not that bad.. that's tomorrow's deal.

Once the boat is prepped.. I move it into the street for the day.. and slide some other stuff out of the garage in to the side yard.. the put it back.

This will allow the 73 room to move out of it's slumber mode..


Vig!

 

[bobmanx]

Vig, whats the latest with your Intercity experience? Are they plowing the roads to get near your new project? If they can get to it there, when do they think it might be here? Let me know how its working out.
Bob

By the way Vig, you, Ken, and Vettefinder Jim dont need to hint, you are welcome to see the new project. but remember its in Orange County till its alive again. LOL

At the moment I have relatives here from Norway (till the 13th of march), but when they are safely on the plane, and as Tom Bryant put it " the fun begins"
Bob

 

[vigman]

Vikings at Bob's house?!

Car in Orange county...

More twists in the puzzle.

Bob@ Inner city is standing by..( oh that reminds me I need to fill out the form...YIKES!)

So I for one will wait till it makes the trek home to Simi.. but I extend the following invitation to YOU Bob.. If your feeling brave..

Remove the Holley.. and I'll rebuild it for you!

That will be one less thing you will have to deal with.


Vig~

 

[bobmanx]

Vigman, after you fill out the form for Intercity, they will start preparations to bring it west. I had mine delivered to Orange County because my one car garage is already full of my Meyers Manx restoration project. And since either one would walk away without a whole lot of trouble and armed guards are exspensive now, I decided to take advantage of my parents wide open garage to get it here and start trying to make it noisy again! LOL

Carb was been rebuilt right before it was parked, and there is a spare carb in a box at my uncle's house just waiting for a chance to drag it over here, with all the other stuff. So I might just hold you to your offer and we will try to get one of them to let gas through to the engine.
Thanks Bob

 

[vigman]

Carbs & stale gas

My Holley was REAL crusty after sitting for 6 months.. WITH fuel stablizer... the Accel pump was JAMMED with varnish etc.etc and the rubber for the power valves was just plain gone...

I am pretty good about taking care of my rides, but this was greusome~

I would try the following..

squirt some fuel into the air horn tube ( pre mixed with some fuel system cleaner) and let it sits.. see if you have any leaks FIRST.

I faxed the form to Bob this AM...

Jeff got his deposit ( finally ) and paperwork is in the mail....

Vig~

 

[vigman]

Oh yeah.. I forgot

Is there/ was there fuel in the tank when you aquired the car?

Have you added anything into the tank?


Vig~

 

[vigman]

One in a Billion

Take the next step into another dimension.


So I'm still prepin the boat today to get it ready for sale.

I make a run to Auto Club to get the O3 stickers for the Boat & SKI and make SURE all the papers clean

I bought this boat in 84.. and paid off the loan in 86 from Security Pacific.

The Lady notices that on the pink, the Lien holder line is stamped ...but not signed WHOOPS.. and I would have to surrender the title and roll it back into my name.

And I have the cover letter & loan payoff papers right there..but NO HELP!

Ok how long?

This would take 3 weeks...

" But Mamm.. the guys coming out tomorrow.."

So she suggests that I go to the local B of A branch, since they BOUGHT Security Pacific.

"Have the manager sign a lien satisfied/title holder release".. so off I go.

So I drive around and start driving to the bigger branch... but then I thought Awww this will be a dud.. I'll go to the closer one for them to tell me that they cannot help me and to call the district who-ever monday.

Beside I needed a binder and the rite -aid was next door.

So I walk in.. and a nice older lady starts to help me.. I start explaining my issue.. and hand her the cover letter from 1986...

She pauses.. and turns SHEET WHITE she hands me her card.

IT WAS THE SAME LADY FROM 1986!

We were both floored~
and everybody in the branch comers over as she starts LAUGHING!

So she signs the pink & the lien release..

Just calculate the ODDS of that.

Vig~

 

[bluestripe67]

I'm a current "jumper" from the CF and just had to respond to this story. I have been glued to my screen for the last half hour reading this incredible story. What a fantastic car with unbelievable paper work. Congratulation bobmanx!

 

[bobmanx]

Vig and all, Yes the bowls are weeping a little just from the transport from Tucson to Orange County. Yes there was approx. 10 gallons of gas in the just replaced St. Steel tank ( just prior to being parked) that was siphoned out. All the fuel lines replaced and the carb rebuilt prior to being parked, for approx. two + years. I was surprised that the gas did not smell that bad, and did not appear to be turning to that gummy varnish stuff, at least in the tank. I didnt try lighting any of it for fun. lol
Radiator and overflow tank are full of "Green" antifreeze, and according to the Chevy service guy that was on most of the service receipts, my uncle specified "NO DEXCOOL" on the work orders.
Vig, I understand the feeling of finding the same lady to sign off the boat pink. I kept running into people in Tucson that knew my uncle and his Vette, when I started asking questions about a 67 Corvette that had been sitting and yada, yada, yada, they would get a weird expression on their face and then ask me questions like they knew the car ( color, interior, rally wheels, etc) and then mention his name and start telling me about the car and what they had done to it for my uncle. ITS WEIRD!

I stopped by a high performance parts place and was asking about Holley float bowl gaskets and was told that there is or was only two types, either two screw or four screw mount, and for the life of me I couldnt remember, so I will wait until I get a chance to visit it again (relatives in from Norway) and then clean the bowls and replace the gaskets, belts, oil and filter, battery, and "NEW PREMIUM" gas thru the lines and then reconnect the line to the carb, and try to get the engine awake.

Brakes are filled with silicone dot-5 fluid again just prior to being parked had St. Steel sleeved calipers installed. Car was left in gear and the emergency brake "off" so it was not stuck. Pedal does not feel soft. calipers dont appear to be leaking at the momment. So keep fingers crossed!

I want to remove the hard top and put the soft top back up so it doesnt stay folded and stashed under the rear deck lid, I think its better to keep it up then stashed away folded. Right?

Bluestripe67, glad you enjoy reading the saga as it unfolds, everyone here has been very helpful and given lots of suggestions. Without the help and concern of all the people on this site, that have answered questions it would not have been nearly the amount of enjoyment that it has been so far. It makes it easier to learn about the car and its "quirks" without having to do it the hard way or by "stepping in it". Is your 67 a coupe or convert? Stock or ? Project or finished? Welcome and glad you jumped. The C2 people (politicly correct) need to stay together and swap knowledge and stories!
Thanks Bob

 

[Tom Bryant]

Vig, Bob,

I'll be following the carb rebuild with interest. I have a '66 Holley that I got from a friend in "kit" form. I know a couple pieces are missing but not anything specific to the Chevy spec carbs. Mine is going on Project C10-R, my modified '69 C10 stepside. (Four more generations and my truck will be a Corvette)

The Offenhauser manifold I'm using is cast and machined for the GM choke thermostat so it will be a nice simple installation.

Tom