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I need too lose a FEW POUNDS!!

Performence will still be there , but they will do it thru weight(carbon fiber-fibertech frames, etc.). As I am from the 50's and we could not seem to get our Hot Rods to 300HP very easy with Factory cars even harder.In the 60's they found it very easy to do, then the gas crunch in the 70's cars could not get mileage and HP together but in the 90's they did it Corvettes over 300HP and getting 28 MPG. I think right now they have an engine that can get 40 MPG and has 500 HP BUT they do not need to bring it out and WON'T until necessary!!!! The REAL question is WHY! WHY! WHY!!!!!! Did they not go TURBO!!! Instead of Supercharge??????? The LS9(!!! That is a Chevy Mistake, Big One too, Better mileage and better enviromental!! Ask that question ??:W:bash:W
 
What a bummer :(
 
They had restrictions in the 70's and still sold lots and lots of Corvettes. It will take time, but the gurus will eventually figure out how to get lots of hp and tq as well as 35mpg. Just gotta believe.

Jim
 
Will Energy Bill Kill the Corvette?December 21, 2007
Rush Limbaugh Show

RUSH: We've got Jimmy in Chicago next. Great to have you, sir. Welcome to Open Line Friday.

CALLER: Hey, how you doing, Rush? Merry Christmas.

RUSH: Same to you, sir.

CALLER: Hey, buddy, I first tuned in to you in '92. I come from a real long line of Democrats here in Chicago, and they were after the Republican Party all the time, but my buddies turned me on to you in '92, and I've been listening ever since. Thank you for the education you have given me.

RUSH: I appreciate that. You're more than welcome.

CALLER: Hey, I want to ask you a question about the energy bill. I was thinking about this when you were talking about it. All right, they want the cars to get like 35 miles per gallon. All right, what about the poor people in this country, when they -- you know, they out drive jalopies, you know, and they can't afford a new, car, will the government give them a new car so they can bring home their big screen TV.

RUSH: No, the new cars that are manufactured starting in 2012 have to have the new miles-per-gallon rating. They can't give all the old cars -- the number of old cars on the road versus new cars sold every year is large. I mean there's many more old cars on the road than there are new ones every year. So you can drive an old clunker for as long as you want 'til it won't go anymore, then you sell it and get a new one, then you got a problem. Now, your new car is going to comport now, or comply. Now, here's the interesting thing. General Motors yesterday, their guy who -- one of their senior vice presidents for design and so forth, they're introducing the latest iteration of the Corvette, and I forget the model but, this thing, it's a monster, 620 horsepower in a V8. They claim 15 street, 24 highway. It's a muscle car. By 2012, GM says, they may not be able to sell it. It may not qualify. People want muscle cars like this, and this just may be the first of the muscle cars to go by the wayside. The only way GM could do it -- and they don't make that many Corvettes. This baby is going to cost a hundred grand. The only way General Motors could do it would be to manufacture a bunch of cars that get more mileage than what the government says so that it would offset the mileage of the Corvettes that were sold. Which means, if there's going to be a strategic decision for them, if they want to continue to manufacture the Corvette as a muscle car, they're going to have to manufacture a whole bunch of teensy-weensy little worthless jalopies that nobody wants, hoping they can convince somebody to buy them, so there's this offset. You know, this energy bill, you bring it up, and one of the things about it, the global warming argument I think can be won in the hearts and minds of the American people. But it's going to be very difficult to defeat it legislatively, as this energy bill makes clear. But, look, this is 2007. The new CAFE standards go into effect on 2012. So we've got five years here, and just like, you know, in a budget bill, project a budget three years, four years out, but it's not cast in stone, they do the budget every year. And they can come back and change this or adapt it before the 2012 CAFE standards go into play. There will be a lot of lobbying pressure to avoid that. However, it's -- the shape of the automobile industry is going to change drastically. You know, these big muscle cars that people like, and you see out there, may be mandated out of existence by your federal government.
 
My car, a 1972, was built at the entry point for the last round of serious automotive emasculation. A few years earlier the L-88s were tearing up the pavement with 500+ HP while the "best" car available in '72 had a 270HP big-block.

Fast forward to the early 1990s and we had the first ZR-1s reclaiming "king of the hill" status for GM.
There were a lot of years between 1972 and 1990. I can't imagine too many people buying a 180hp 1975 'vette were thinking "It's ok, in 15 years there'll be some real tire shredders again".

Knowing that in 20 years the industry could catch up to the regulations is small comfort.
 
this what happens when you put the libs in charge and if they win the white house in 08 this is nothing to what will happen; it is amazing that two states,calif and new york can dictate what the whole country can do but the repubs need a chance to win those states in 08 or they are history.. if bush would have vetoed this bill the conservatives would get skunked in 08 in the race for the white house. if a repubs win the house, senate and the presidency's this bill will go away.

When will people realize this isn't a liberal or conservative issue? BTW, isn't the governor of Calif. a republican who wants to sue the EPA? ;)

;squint: I highly recommend that you go to China for a month and see what little or no air/water quality regulations can do to your quality of life. You may like to suck in that level of air pollution but I happen to like breathing whatever clean air I get to breathe and if I had to give up a few hp for that, (like we can really use 620 hp in a street car anyway!) I would gladly do it.

Anyone who really thinks this will affect our beloved Corvettes is not looking at the big picture of how power is likely to be developed in the future. We have more regulations now than we did in the 80's and yet we have a Vette that gets pretty good gas milage and creates a huge amount more power than those 80's cars ever did. I think we have the best ever and that will continue with creative new technologies!:cool
 

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