Radar Detector Hard Wire

[Guana 1]

I am in the process of hard wiring my V1 to the fuse box under the passengers floor board. Where is the best place in that area to connect the ground to.

Thanks........

Guana

 

[motorman_mp3]

Not sure on the ground,but I noticed you are from Louisiana, So am I, What part are from? And being a traffic cop I would say that the radar detector is not needed.(HA,HA,HA,)

 

[Guana 1]

I am from Lockport which is about 60 miles South West of New Orleans. Driving a C5 you need all the additional protection you can afford........

 

[Patrick]

Not to hijack this thread, but I've noticed a definate trend: whenever someone includes "radar detector" in a thread title, it acts almost like a lightning rod for anyone employed in a law enforcement capacity, attracting them to the thread. And they usually post that they don't like them. Interesting. :L

I've always felt that owning a radar detector becomes, eventually, relying on the radar detector, and that leads to a false sense of security. No, I don't own one, and no, I'm not in law enforcement. As such, Guana, I'm afraid I don't have a recommendation for you on how to hardwire your V1.

My only advice would be that if you hardwire it, remember that if you get pulled over, having a radar detector on your dash will almost certainly influence the officer who pulled you over to NOT let you off with a warning.

-Patrick

 

[motorman_mp3]

I hate to see good people waste money on radar detector.I am radar and laser instructor. Any good officer that knows how to use his tools will beat a radar are laser detector every time.
About the detector on the dash being an influence,is just not true,in my case anyway. It depends on the speed and the attitude, I have let people go for 90+ on the interstate, just because they had a good attitude.(and they had radar detectors,and they let me know that it went off way to late for them to slow down)
So as CORED91 said, don't let it lead you into a false sence of secuity.
Sorry guana1 we still have not told you what you need to know, I will wave now and say good night, Sorry again.

 

[WEFs02]

There were three wires taped together. Orange, yellow and black. The black wire is your ground.

Don't let anyone fool you, that V1 can save your butt.

 

[Guana 1]

I have been running radar detectors for over 25 years; I have had them all from the old Super Snoopers, all of the Escorts and even now with Valentine 1s. It doesn’t matter what the anti radar detector establishment has to say but running with one does increase the effectiveness to avoid tickets.



I am not saying that I haven’t received any tickets with the radar detector but I would have received many more with out it. I run from Louisiana to Texas every week and I know that I am saved from citations a couple of times every week.



As far as a trooper getting me with training that is bull, as long as I am not leading the pack and he is shooting some one ahead of me I will pick up a signal and have more than enough time to slow down. I prove this every week.......


Guana

 

[Bioscache2]

From what I've read and seen its true. If your the only car on the road then the trooper has you, detector or not. But if there are other cars on the road and he lights someone up your gonna pick up the residual usually. A radar beem spreads pretty wide in just a couple of hundred feet so there should be something to detect. Laser on the other hand is pretty narrow so I dunno how well they work.

 

[motorman_mp3]

A laser has a beam width of 3 ft at 1000 ft. It has to be aimed at 1 vehicle and 1 vehicle only. If the red dot is on the vehicle that is the only vehicle it will pick up.So if you paint the target with the laser, the laser will give a solid tone,and the speed will be displayed in the HUD. The laser sends out 194,000 light beams per sec. It takes a third of a sec. for laser to lock. The vehicle only has to travel 1 ft for laser to calculate speed. So if you are coming up on traffic or moving your way around in traffic, the laser will get you if the operator has it painted your vehicle with the laser.
That is just a real quick lesson on how laser works.
Doppler radar is a lot different, and like I said earlier if the cop knows how to use his tools a detector will go off way to late.
And beam width on doppler really depends on which band is being used,Way to much info. for me to type on doppler radar. (Hell it took me 30 min to type this.) It all boils down how educated the cop is,and how much he trains with his equipment.
I am not trying to bash detectors I am just letting you know that if a cop knows his stuff, that a detector can be beat every time.

From what I've read and seen its true. If your the only car on the road then the trooper has you, detector or not. But if there are other cars on the road and he lights someone up your gonna pick up the residual usually. A radar beem spreads pretty wide in just a couple of hundred feet so there should be something to detect. Laser on the other hand is pretty narrow so I dunno how well they work.

 

[motorman_mp3]

I will bring my laser and doppler to Bg in June and give classes on how a detector can be beat. With one car or a group of cars.

 

[WEFs02]

It all boils down how educated the cop is,and how much he trains with his equipment.
I am not trying to bash detectors I am just letting you know that if a cop knows his stuff, that a detector can be beat every time.

In real life, the cops on the move usually leave the unit running and everyone in the county knows where they are. The stationary traps will get the lone speeder or a one or two out of a pack and if you're hanging back the 8500 or V1 will give you plenty of warning while they pick off the leaders. I'm sure you guys have plenty of tricks but until those tricks are actually used out here on the road, the V1 is worth every dollar.
BTW Guana 1, did you find the ground wire?

 

[motorman_mp3]

The tricks as you call them are used every day, and it sounds that the people in your area are lucky.
Like I said I not bashing the detector, I'm just saying that it can and is beat every day. ( In the real world in South Louisana)

 

[larry5868]

Here are instructions on how to hardwire the V1
http://www.spdkilz.com/techtipv1.html

 

[Guana 1]

Larry……………………….



Thanks for all the information, I wish that I would have had it earlier since it would have had made the installation a lot simpler. Not knowing where the ground was I tied it in to the ground of the courtesy light over the floorboard on the passengers’ side.



Instead of using the suction cups like you did I fabricated a bracket that slid into the slot that the sun visor clip uses. I then drilled it and bolted it behind the sun visor clip on the passenger’s side. Turn out real nice. My wife says now she can mute it with out stretching so far as you had to do before when it was mounted on the windshield with the suction cups. I will post pictures



Guana

 

[RoadReady]

I will bring my laser and doppler to Bg in June and give classes on how a detector can be beat. With one car or a group of cars.

That will be worth the admission by itself!

 

[Mac]

Not to hijack this thread, but I've noticed a definate trend: whenever someone includes "radar detector" in a thread title, it acts almost like a lightning rod for anyone employed in a law enforcement capacity, attracting them to the thread. And they usually post that they don't like them. Interesting. :L

I saw this one and I was gonna pass on it, Patrick, but motorman_mp3 grabbed it! I'll bet mmp3 even knows what the acronyms 'radar' and 'laser' mean... and why lasers are poison...

-Mac

 

[Bioscache2]

I saw this one and I was gonna pass on it, Patrick, but motorman_mp3 grabbed it! I'll bet mmp3 even knows what the acronyms 'radar' and 'laser' mean... and why lasers are poison...

-Mac

I think you've set your standards too high. Professionals who use the equipment aside I'm always impressed when others realize that radar and laser are acronyms. If they know what they mean then thats just icing.

 

[Mac]

High standards aren't a bad thing but do cause frequent disappointment.

RADAR- RAdio Detection And Ranging
LASER- Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

I'll leave the 'lasers are poison' out there to keep folks guessing.

-Mac

 

[Patrick]

I saw this one and I was gonna pass on it, Patrick, but motorman_mp3 grabbed it! I'll bet mmp3 even knows what the acronyms 'radar' and 'laser' mean... and why lasers are poison...

See, Mac, I knew you LEO's wouldn't fail to comment a thread about detectors, be they RAdio Detection And Ranging or the Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation variety. As for the poison part, doesn't it have something to do with the EM-field around a laser-generating device, and how it can cause cancer?

I seriously wasn't trying to create controversy here. All I'm saying is that it has been my observation that in drivers who have developed bad habits when it comes to being attuned to what's happening on the road around them, Radar/Laser Detectors give them an excuse to continue with those bad habits. Why? Because it gives them an out, a reliance on a set of technological eyes to be on the lookout for cops and speed traps, rather than using their own senses to continue to scan the road ahead. Sure, they may look up ahead, but "looking" and actually "seeing" are two different things. The Detector is doing the "seeing" for them, and the Detector can be fooled. (Instant-on Radar, for example.)

I'm not saying anyone who's participated in this thread has that issue, but I have noticed there are more than a few motorists on the road to whom this truism will apply.

Guana, good luck with your hard wire install. My only last recommendation would be, design how you mount your Valentine so that if you need to, you can take the detector down and hide it if you do get pulled over.


-Patrick

 

[Bob Chadwick]

As far as a trooper getting me with training that is bull, as long as I am not leading the pack and he is shooting some one ahead of me I will pick up a signal and have more than enough time to slow down. I prove this every week.......Guana

So did the Radar detector elude the ticket or was it your practice of making yourself less noticeable. I do the same thing you do without a RADAR detector and have only received one speeding ticket in 20 years. And the one ticket I recieved I was the sole car on the road going 70 in a 55.