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Edmond said:
Do you think there might have been some engineering envy going on at Buick when the GN was designed?
So where is that Buick at today?
You can imitate and you cannot duplicate.
Long live the Corvette.
Should Corvette Become its Own Brand?
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Do you think there might have been some engineering envy going on at Buick when the GN was designed?
So where is that Buick at today?
You can imitate and you cannot duplicate.
Long live the Corvette.
NC 50anny said:
I don't think the Buick is gone because Corvette out engineered Buick. GM pulled the plug because they didn't want Buick to surpase Corvette in engineering. Classic GM is to hold the other cars behind Corvette instead of constant evolution of the Corvette.
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JMHO but Corvette is Chevy's icon--it has been, is, and should always be a Chevy. One dealership in Albuquerque I went to many years ago on a cross country drive said I couldn't put my car in the regular line when I showed up for service without an appointment, but had to take my car to the Corvette Corral and moved it to the head of the service line. Pretty cool and very appreciated. Maybe other dealers should take note and provide a little better than average service to the customers who buy their company's icon. Again, JMHO.
OBTW, and not to hijack the thread, Casey Chevrolet in Newport News, VA, has one of the coolest and friendliest parts departments I've seen at a Chevrolet dealership. It looks like a place for Corvette/car enthusiasts, not just a front for a parts warehouse. Andy
OBTW, and not to hijack the thread, Casey Chevrolet in Newport News, VA, has one of the coolest and friendliest parts departments I've seen at a Chevrolet dealership. It looks like a place for Corvette/car enthusiasts, not just a front for a parts warehouse. Andy
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After readind all the replies I think the Corvette should be it own mark but still connected with GM.
The reason being I think the ZR1 would have survived if the decision were strickly with the vette team of designers.
The quality may be increased and the option list could be better and inspire a lower cost car with out the luxury items and have a true bare knuckles sports car.
The reason being I think the ZR1 would have survived if the decision were strickly with the vette team of designers.
The quality may be increased and the option list could be better and inspire a lower cost car with out the luxury items and have a true bare knuckles sports car.
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This is just crazy talk. Corvette is just another fine Chevy. PERIOD.............
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I have to go along with Lucy, that a Corvette is another fine Chevy period.
The Corvette is not good enough to carry it's own dealership yet, and l would be surprised if it ever could.
Why do you think that the new XLR (caddy) was delayed. Because the quality control at Bowling Green was sub par. All of us could have told them that before they started.
Now after a couple of years of turning out the XLR's, maybe then l would step out for a new C6.
Common business sense say's, that buying a new Corvette is not a smart move.
What l would love to do is get Lutz into a Miata, Nissan Z, and any other two seater and let him compare the ride and handling and even performance. And then do it again a couple of years from now in the same vehicles.
This wouldn't really shock him because he already knows and cannot afford to corect it at present.
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The Corvette is not good enough to carry it's own dealership yet, and l would be surprised if it ever could.
Why do you think that the new XLR (caddy) was delayed. Because the quality control at Bowling Green was sub par. All of us could have told them that before they started.
Now after a couple of years of turning out the XLR's, maybe then l would step out for a new C6.
Common business sense say's, that buying a new Corvette is not a smart move.
What l would love to do is get Lutz into a Miata, Nissan Z, and any other two seater and let him compare the ride and handling and even performance. And then do it again a couple of years from now in the same vehicles.
This wouldn't really shock him because he already knows and cannot afford to corect it at present.
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Wasn't Chevy always GM's high performance brand? I think by selling the Corvette, Chevrolet has convinced many customers to buy their Camaros, Novas, Chevelles, Impalas, Cavliers, etc. Chevrolet is the maker of the Corvette. Corvette may benefit from the split but Chevy would suffer.
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bluecoupe said:
During my formative years my Dad sold Chevys. In sequence I've owned a '55, a Nova SS, Camaro SS, then 3 Vettes. I've participated in the performance years with Chevy when the the Vette was king and Novas, Camaros, Chevelles, and even Impalas were the princes - pretenders to the throne. Go to the Chevy dealer today, check out the performance family, subtract Corvette and try to tell me Chevy is the performance Brand. Please recognize the pain I feel to say this.
It's sad but the Vette doesn't even fit at Chevy anymore. The Vette is a showroom draw. People come to see it, can't afford it and buy ... what??? ... not a Camaro, not a Nova SS or SS454. You think this Vette Viewer will buy a Malibu Max, or a Cavalier, or a Trailblazer? Quite a leap. More likey he will cross to the Nisson or Ford dealer for less performance bang for less performance bucks.
Chevy still builds fine cars, but unless / until they go back to their 50's, 60's & 70's (early) SS roots, the vette is only handicapped by being sold alongside a line of entry level vehicles with no serious class performance offerings.
Sorry Chevy, I call it as I see it - and as you deliver it.
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Suffer, Chevrolet is lost in space. If they didn't have a decent SUV, they would go the way of the Edsel.
The vette is not a volume car and can not generate enough $'s to warrant it's own division.
They would be better off selling the vette to another maker first.
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Suffer, Chevrolet is lost in space. If they didn't have a decent SUV, they would go the way of the Edsel.
The vette is not a volume car and can not generate enough $'s to warrant it's own division.
They would be better off selling the vette to another maker first.
Alan
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You are so right! After the Corvette, it's such a drop off.
I hate to say it, but Ford is doing right with the Mustangs. There seems to be a Mustang for everyone. There are the V6's for the people who want a sporty looking car but not the responsibility of the bigger and more powerful V8. There are the V8's that have more power and cost more. Then there were the various models of V8's like the Bosch, Cobra, GT, etc...
What did Chevy have with the Camaro? You either had a V6 or the LS1. What if people couldn't afford the LS1 Camaro? They didn't need the power of the LS1 but wanted the sporty look of the Camaro?
GM had better start listening to their customers because the SUV market can't be monopolized by any one company; everyone is making an SUV for different purposes.
You are so right! After the Corvette, it's such a drop off.
I hate to say it, but Ford is doing right with the Mustangs. There seems to be a Mustang for everyone. There are the V6's for the people who want a sporty looking car but not the responsibility of the bigger and more powerful V8. There are the V8's that have more power and cost more. Then there were the various models of V8's like the Bosch, Cobra, GT, etc...
What did Chevy have with the Camaro? You either had a V6 or the LS1. What if people couldn't afford the LS1 Camaro? They didn't need the power of the LS1 but wanted the sporty look of the Camaro?
GM had better start listening to their customers because the SUV market can't be monopolized by any one company; everyone is making an SUV for different purposes.
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You're losing me here. Didn't they make sporty looking V6 Camaros? :s
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Actually, we had the Camaro RS which, I believe, came with a V6 and very sporty looking side molding, and unique front and rear bumpers.
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Rob said:
Yup, it was the 3.8 in it's last go round pushing over 200hp. Not too shabby for what is essentially a 305 with 2 cylinders lopped off. Properly tweaked, even those 3.8 f-bodies can scream like banshees.
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Regardless - as unfortunate as it is, the GM Gods smote the Camaro and there is no sign (or rumor) of reviving it. Chevy's backup hitter is a $41k (great looking) truck with 290 or 300HP (depending upon what day of the week it is). Then comes the 200HP Monte Carlo. The "Hot " news is that it will get the 240HP SC version of the V6 that my grand mother has in her 5 year old Buick regal.
Sorry, I'm going down a Chevy-bashing road and I don't want to go that way. I DO want Chevy to remember their roots. They show us an SS and say, "No we won't build it." They produce a Silverado SS that is supposed to compete with the Lightning and the Dodge, but has what ... 60-80 less HP? Where are the SS versions of the cars the kids would buy - I don't mean stickers and badges either. Chevy CAN be great again - higher performance models would take them there.
IF this is not the road to be taken, time to spin off the Vette into its own line.
Sorry, I'm going down a Chevy-bashing road and I don't want to go that way. I DO want Chevy to remember their roots. They show us an SS and say, "No we won't build it." They produce a Silverado SS that is supposed to compete with the Lightning and the Dodge, but has what ... 60-80 less HP? Where are the SS versions of the cars the kids would buy - I don't mean stickers and badges either. Chevy CAN be great again - higher performance models would take them there.
IF this is not the road to be taken, time to spin off the Vette into its own line.
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No cheap Vettes!
As much as I would love to see a new Vette in my garage every model year, I don't think they should create a "lower" Vette. Vettes have too much class to have a "base model" or "entry level". There are enough older Vettes that can be had for a reasonable price that they are actually within reach of the vast majority (insurance not withstanding). Keep the Corvette at the top of the Chevy food chain where it belongs.
As much as I would love to see a new Vette in my garage every model year, I don't think they should create a "lower" Vette. Vettes have too much class to have a "base model" or "entry level". There are enough older Vettes that can be had for a reasonable price that they are actually within reach of the vast majority (insurance not withstanding). Keep the Corvette at the top of the Chevy food chain where it belongs.
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bluecoupe said:
Actually, GM already does. GM owns Vauxhall.
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67HEAVEN said:
I think his point was that we shouldn't be required to move to England to buy it.
With some redesigning of the front end and a HP kick, I could see this platform as a Corvette "Boxter"-beater.
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