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billybob
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First let me applogize for this being a long post, but as I have just basically answered this in an email with regards to my findings I thought this may help some others.
In this bit of research I didn't include Zip or Mid America as they only sell sides not hooker headers, as a FYI though, Zip has the cheapest price on the fiberglass sides, which when you show Ecklers they will match the price then beat it by 1%
The summit stuff, that I looked at again didn't look complete as I'll show below
for 386 you get this
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Chevrolet: 1963-82 265-400 Corvette, 1 7/8 in. primary tubes, 4 in. collector, sidemount header kit
Hooker's Super Competition Sidemount headers deliver the most aggressive style and performance for your early Corvette. Sidemount headers are built from lightweight 18-gauge tubing and feature tubes that slip directly into the collector for a leak free seal. This kit includes two headers, premium header gaskets, and all necessary hardware.
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Basically headers only
add another 201 you get these
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These Hooker Side Tubes are required when installing side mount headers on your 'Vette. They run under the door sill and exit the exhaust in front of each rear tire. They're made from lightweight 18-gauge tubing and slip directly into the collector of the headers for a leak free seal.
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now if you want the mufflers another 135
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4 in. sidetube, slip-in, glasspack, muffler
For sidetube sound control, Hooker builds long lasting slip-in mufflers. These mufflers are easily removed for racing purposes and are available in a performance style glasspack. These mufflers produce a high level of sound control without restricting engine efficiency.
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add em all together for the side package you get this 722 giver er take a few $$$ and that's all in black add chrome and yer adding the cost up
Corvette Central has a package for about 700, but to me somehow looks incomplete, I hate when they don't disclose all information aka when you read this part of it
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Replaces stock components, or converts stock Corvettes to side exhaust. Complete kits. Replace your stock components or convert your standard exhaust to side pipes. Great sound-great look! Our 68-74 kits include aluminized steel pipes, fiberglass side exhaust covers (paint any color or silver to resemble factory look), and all necessary installation hardware
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Notice the lack of mention of headers, yet the pic associated with them show the headers
Yet for 1200 this is whats advertised
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Includes headers, gaskets, bolts and side tubes.
Hooker headers are available for both side mount exhaust and under-car exhaust applications. Side mount systems are complete with headers and side tubes. Slip-in mufflers can be ordered separately. Super Competition headers are designed to use with under-car exhaust systems. Both systems feature four-into-one styling. Applications are for any combination of air conditioning, power steering or brakes, and manual or automatic transmissions. Header sets include header gaskets, header bolts, and instructions. Some systems may not be legal for street use in some states - check state laws before installing.
Installation of headers on small block applications require the use of #323904 alternator bracket set.
Installation of headers on air conditioning equipped small block applications up to 1978 with long style compressors require the use of #323911 compressor bracket.
A.I.R. fittings for header tubes are available special order.
Oxygen sensor fittings in collector are available special order.
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Notice they mention Headers this time
Now Ecklers
for 949 you get this
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Painted Black Finish
Set Includes Headers, Side Tubes, Mufflers and Hardware
Decreases Back Pressure/Increases Horsepower
Also Available In Premium Chrome Finish (P/N 29410)
Hooker Small Block Sidemount Headers feature four-in-one styling which culminates into a 4" collector. The small block headers have 1 7/8" primary pipes. Hooker sidemounts fit any combination of air conditioning, power brakes or steering, and manual or automatic transmissions. For 63-68 small block applications, order P/N's 26752, 41064 (alternator brackets) and P/N 26753 air conditioning bracket (if so equipped)
Not legal for sale or use in California and many states which require A.I.R. fittings - please check state laws before ordering.
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Full disclosure a true complete package,
I'm running a 350 SB so these prices reflect my research but yours should vary slightly with regards to cost.
Most of the other packages I have seen don't include the mufflers, headers or the mounting hardware which priced individually make up more then the difference.
When they say buyer beware they really mean it
Hope this helps someone
Bill
In this bit of research I didn't include Zip or Mid America as they only sell sides not hooker headers, as a FYI though, Zip has the cheapest price on the fiberglass sides, which when you show Ecklers they will match the price then beat it by 1%
The summit stuff, that I looked at again didn't look complete as I'll show below
for 386 you get this
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Chevrolet: 1963-82 265-400 Corvette, 1 7/8 in. primary tubes, 4 in. collector, sidemount header kit
Hooker's Super Competition Sidemount headers deliver the most aggressive style and performance for your early Corvette. Sidemount headers are built from lightweight 18-gauge tubing and feature tubes that slip directly into the collector for a leak free seal. This kit includes two headers, premium header gaskets, and all necessary hardware.
-------
Basically headers only
add another 201 you get these
-------
These Hooker Side Tubes are required when installing side mount headers on your 'Vette. They run under the door sill and exit the exhaust in front of each rear tire. They're made from lightweight 18-gauge tubing and slip directly into the collector of the headers for a leak free seal.
-------
now if you want the mufflers another 135
-------
4 in. sidetube, slip-in, glasspack, muffler
For sidetube sound control, Hooker builds long lasting slip-in mufflers. These mufflers are easily removed for racing purposes and are available in a performance style glasspack. These mufflers produce a high level of sound control without restricting engine efficiency.
-------
add em all together for the side package you get this 722 giver er take a few $$$ and that's all in black add chrome and yer adding the cost up
Corvette Central has a package for about 700, but to me somehow looks incomplete, I hate when they don't disclose all information aka when you read this part of it
-------
Replaces stock components, or converts stock Corvettes to side exhaust. Complete kits. Replace your stock components or convert your standard exhaust to side pipes. Great sound-great look! Our 68-74 kits include aluminized steel pipes, fiberglass side exhaust covers (paint any color or silver to resemble factory look), and all necessary installation hardware
-------
Notice the lack of mention of headers, yet the pic associated with them show the headers
Yet for 1200 this is whats advertised
-------
Includes headers, gaskets, bolts and side tubes.
Hooker headers are available for both side mount exhaust and under-car exhaust applications. Side mount systems are complete with headers and side tubes. Slip-in mufflers can be ordered separately. Super Competition headers are designed to use with under-car exhaust systems. Both systems feature four-into-one styling. Applications are for any combination of air conditioning, power steering or brakes, and manual or automatic transmissions. Header sets include header gaskets, header bolts, and instructions. Some systems may not be legal for street use in some states - check state laws before installing.
Installation of headers on small block applications require the use of #323904 alternator bracket set.
Installation of headers on air conditioning equipped small block applications up to 1978 with long style compressors require the use of #323911 compressor bracket.
A.I.R. fittings for header tubes are available special order.
Oxygen sensor fittings in collector are available special order.
--------
Notice they mention Headers this time
Now Ecklers
for 949 you get this
---------
Painted Black Finish
Set Includes Headers, Side Tubes, Mufflers and Hardware
Decreases Back Pressure/Increases Horsepower
Also Available In Premium Chrome Finish (P/N 29410)
Hooker Small Block Sidemount Headers feature four-in-one styling which culminates into a 4" collector. The small block headers have 1 7/8" primary pipes. Hooker sidemounts fit any combination of air conditioning, power brakes or steering, and manual or automatic transmissions. For 63-68 small block applications, order P/N's 26752, 41064 (alternator brackets) and P/N 26753 air conditioning bracket (if so equipped)
Not legal for sale or use in California and many states which require A.I.R. fittings - please check state laws before ordering.
---------
Full disclosure a true complete package,
I'm running a 350 SB so these prices reflect my research but yours should vary slightly with regards to cost.
Most of the other packages I have seen don't include the mufflers, headers or the mounting hardware which priced individually make up more then the difference.
When they say buyer beware they really mean it
Hope this helps someone
Bill
Which I was trying to use as a price guide and a demonstration that not all "complete kits" are the same as other "complete kits" in the same price range.
