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I recently completed alot of mods to myL48. Vortec heads, XE262 cam, 1.6 rockers, headers, performer intake, TCI 2k converter. Heres the problem. Runs great everywhere except idle. I can get it to idle relitively smooth until I drive down the street & stop at the first stopsign. Then it goes real rough. I believe that the stock 76 Q-jet's idle circuit is just not enough for this combination. I have to give the mixture screws 4-5 turns out from bottom to give it enough fuel to hold an idle in gear. I'm thinking that I need to upgrade to a non-emissions carb, such as a Holley or perferably a Demon. Any input will be appriciated.
 
Honestly, I think that the QJet should be able to handle that. It should put out enough CFM to give the engine what it needs. I don't think that it's the type of carb, but maybe it is just the idle circuit, as you said above.

Good luck! :D

TR
 
As you say the q-jet is really a good carb as far as airflow goes. I just think that the idle curcit is on the lean side, being a 76 emissions carb. Thanks for the reply. Next ? is can you modify the idle circuit on a Q-jet?
 
This is an excerpt from "Rochester Carburetors by Doug Roe"- Idle System

"Idle Systems-Do no alter the idle system unless off-idle or light-throttle acceleration sages exist. Nearly any modification made here will affect the engine's ability to pass emissions inspections.

The channel-restriction orifices can be easily altered if you have a suitable set of small drills. The only reason to do this is if light throttle weakness and surge exist. Increasing the diameter a few thousandths of an inch will richen the off idle misture. Never exceed a 10% increase in orifice area. Use tacky grease ion the bit to collect tiny chips as you drill the thing orifice. A 10% increaes in channel restriction orifice area is equivalent to approx. a .003 in. increase in orifice diamter.

Q-jet idle tubes are difficult to alter. Their diameter is .03-.035 in. and standard drill bits that size are approximately 1 1/2in long. The tube orfice is 1-21/32in. below the tubes top. The bit will not reach the calibrated orifice and enlarging the upper portion of the tubes does not help. Extral long drills in the required size range are difficult to find. Idle tubes are literally impossible to remove without a special tool. And, these tools and parts are not dealer service items, so don't expect help from your regular parts man or service manager. ........

There are two reasons why you might want to increase the idle tube orifice size. First, when the curb idle is not satisfactory with the idle mixture needles turned out (counterclockwise), larger idle tubes will give more mixture control. Second Qjets are sometimes palgued with nozzel drip at idle, which causes poor idle stability....................

Should you enlarge the orifices, be sure to get all the chips out. Remove the primary jets and force fuel and air back and forth throught the idle tube via the het wells. When enlarging the orifices, o no exceed the stock diamter by more than .00d in."

read: its going to take some effort to get it to idle, wether you want to ditch the carb for an aftermarket one is up to you. If you want to stick with the Qjet, the article above tells you where to start.

good luck
 
as SS said, it can be made to work. you should buy a book or two about the Q-jets, and a set of drill bits. $50 is a lot cheaper than a new carb, and if you get the Q-jet right you'll have the best street carb available. Brian
 
Check your vacuum readings at idle both in netural and in gear. I suspect that your vacuum is low in gear.
I'm using the same camshaft and changed to a Holley because I couldn't see waiting on the mail to deliver new jets and rods all the time.
 

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