ok, i have been searching and finding out that the VATS system is a likely problem, but my key doesnt have a resistor in it so how would i measure the resistance of it. I had copys of the key made already and tried the new keys but that didnt work. It will start every now and then. When you turn the key on everything has power but the car wont even turn over so im guessing no power to starter. It is a 85 Z51 does it have the VATS system in it? I took the starter out and will be putting a new one in tomorrow. Its the original starter and it has 115,000 miles on it and i was told that this could also be the problem. If its not i guess i will go with the vats bypass? Could someone explain to me in deatil how to do this fix? Thanks and sorry about all the questions.