BullWinkle said:
Brad,
Just wondering if the Viper community is as tight as the Corvette community. I mean, do you guys wave at each other, stop to talk to each other, etc...???
I'm definitely going to get a Viper somewhere down the line and want to know those things so I don't make an @$$ out of myself and other Viper owners.
Thanks,
Bullwinkle:
The Viper guys are okay at the wave, but nothing like the old timer Vette folks (I don't put C5 drivers in the same category). I personally have plenty of down to Earth Viper friends, but there are quite a few "poser" types out there who have no clue what their engine looks like or how to drive their cars. I the company of old fashioned gear heads who like getting grease under the fingernails.
For the most part, Viper folks aren't like that. I compare the Viper folks to the C5 crowd, who like bolt-on cheap HP and enjoy building garage and dyno queens. They throw tons of money around to the rip-off artist tuners, just so they can say that they tuned their cars. The antithesis of that are guys like John Lingenfelter who walk the walk.
An example of this would be a friend that I just talked to, who was having his car bult by a local tuner. When I asked him who's gears that they put into his car (as well as who's flywheel he installed), he could not answer the question. He basically just dropped the cash down and trusted the tuner. These accountability issues are a real problem in the Viper community. Propaganda flows readily in the Viper community, but good information is very hard to find.
By the way, that same tuner torqued my heads down to the incorrect spec's, and was the cause of my engine blow-by and internal coolant leaks. Because of this, my engine was sent out for a complete rebuild (luckily under extended warranty), that cost Daimler over $35k.
Of course this is JMO. Let me know if I can be of any assistance in your research of Vipers? If you ever get out to Southern Cal, you are welcomed to call me and take it for a spin around the block. This is a wonderful car, that demands your undivided attention and respect... but it sure is fun.
Brad