Which product is recommended for removing swirls by hand application?

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There is Menzerna Intense polish and also Menzerna Power Gloss which is even stronger. I have also heard of Poorboys SSR 2.5 and SSR3. I have tried the 3M Compound and it was useless. Anyone have any recommendations for swiril removing products or luck with the above products?
The paint on the car is very shiny but ever since I used the Klasse AIO and Klasse Sealant it is much easier now to see the swirls, scratches and blemishes on the car when you get up to it close.

 

[Ken]

Believe it or not, an old trick was to sprinkle cornstarch on the paint and buff it out; that will eliminate the swirl marks. I've personally never tried it, but the hobbyists trick goes back quite a ways (read: tried and true).

 

[JonM]

Try this Zaino product...

LINK

 

[Aurora40]

For spot application by hand, Meguiar's Scratch-X is really pretty effective. But you can only do so much with hand application. Be careful with polishes meant for machines or you may find yourself with hazing or micromarring your hand can't correct. Do a test area first and take your time.

 

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Best Swirl remover by hand

Believe it or not, an old trick was to sprinkle cornstarch on the paint and buff it out; that will eliminate the swirl marks. I've personally never tried it, but the hobbyists trick goes back quite a ways (read: tried and true).

This is a new one I have never heard of sounds kinda messy and cornstarch would scratch the finish.
I do have some Z-5 as I have all of the Zaino products. It just happens that this particuliar car was Klasse AIO and Klasse Sealant twice on each one. It was recommended to me to try Poorboy's SSR2.5 and SSR3. I was told that the Scratch X wouldn't work. I did try the 3M compound and again that was useless.
I also understand if I use Menzerna which is suppose to be used by machine that I could actually put more scratches into the paint by hand.

 

[Ken]

Believe it or not, an old trick was to sprinkle cornstarch on the paint and buff it out; that will eliminate the swirl marks.

C'mon all you old-timers, back me up! :L

 

[Aurora40]

I was told that the Scratch X wouldn't work. I did try the 3M compound and again that was useless.

What 3M compound was it? Why wouldn't Scratch-X work? I mean, you don't have to get it, but it'll probably work by hand as well as anything else. Plus, it's made for hand use, so it shouldn't leave any hazing or marring behind, though it might not be strong enough to remove your defects. It may be your defects can't be safely removed by hand.

 

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What 3M compound was it? Why wouldn't Scratch-X work? I mean, you don't have to get it, but it'll probably work by hand as well as anything else. Plus, it's made for hand use, so it shouldn't leave any hazing or marring behind, though it might not be strong enough to remove your defects. It may be your defects can't be safely removed by hand.

No it wasn't Scratch it it was 3M's compound. I just got some Mezerna Power Gloss and Intensive and final polish. Will have to see how that works.

 

[94conv.]

Scratch X is pretty worthless, Ive tried it to, its too mild. There is a product made by the "wax shop" called safe cut. Its the best stuff I have found for a scatch, haze swirl remover and it really is safe for all finishes, I was really impressed. I like the shine with zaino but my towels must have been a 50/50 mix instead of 100% cotton because when I went to put on the show polish after the z5, I had some more swirls and now have to start over but thats alright, the shine from ziano is amazing.

 

[Fick]

Believe it or not, an old trick was to sprinkle cornstarch on the paint and buff it out; that will eliminate the swirl marks. I've personally never tried it, but the hobbyists trick goes back quite a ways (read: tried and true).

Ken, that sounds simple, why don't you try it and let us know?

 

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I have never heard of the product by Wax Shop

Scratch X is pretty worthless, Ive tried it to, its too mild. There is a product made by the "wax shop" called safe cut. Its the best stuff I have found for a scatch, haze swirl remover and it really is safe for all finishes, I was really impressed. I like the shine with zaino but my towels must have been a 50/50 mix instead of 100% cotton because when I went to put on the show polish after the z5, I had some more swirls and now have to start over but thats alright, the shine from ziano is amazing.

I used to use Liquid Glass on this car for 18 years but now since I put Klasse AIO and Sealant it has revealed all the scratches, swirls, blemishes. I guess the Liquid Glass Polish was doing a great job of hiding those imperfections as I have put over 40 coats on the car. The Klasse probably removed all of those years polishing with Liquid Glass.

 

[Ken]

No respect! I get no respect!!

Honestly now damnit, where are all of the old-timers who remember this trick?? I am not crazy! :L

 

[JonM]

No respect! I get no respect!!

Honestly now damnit, where are all of the old-timers who remember this trick?? I am not crazy! :L

Maybe you could get a defense if you referred to them as mature studs and not old timers.

 

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They all left to Corvetteforum.com

Maybe you could get a defense if you referred to them as mature studs and not old timers.

or bought a Mustang GT

 

[Ken]

Okay, I'll take this one: :cool

 

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68 GT 500 Shelby Mustang

I will take one of those too.

 

[94conv.]

Ive heard of baking soda to take care of bugs on the front of the car. Nothing on corn starch though, I think maybe the statement "im not crazy" should be put in the same folder as, "hey, watch this" and "this is gonna be a good one" and I'm sure there are a few others to go along with them. just kidding, ken.

 

[Aurora40]

No it wasn't Scratch it it was 3M's compound. I just got some Mezerna Power Gloss and Intensive and final polish. Will have to see how that works.

I actually meant them as two different questions. 1) which 3M product, and 2) why did someone tell you scratch-x wouldn't work?

Anyway, 3M makes numerous compounds and polishes. Do you happen to know the exact name of it? Depending on what product it was, it'll give you an idea of what else might or might not work. If it's a very heavy-cut 3M product, then any other stuff that's a lighter cut probably won't work either.

Let us know how it goes with Menzerna.

As to buying 3M, Poorboys, Menzerna, etc, all you really need is one line, any (quality) line, that has different levels of abrasive. Then work your way up the scale until you find something that works. All of those are good products, and will all probably produce the same results, it's just how they are used to produce it, and other factors that will determine which you like more. I'd say buy 2-3 different levels of cut of product and spend your time concentrating on the technique you are using rather than concentrating on buying more and more products.

 

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I may have been the one or one of the ones to sasy scatch x didnt work or didnt work as expected. I jsut didnt have very good luck with it, I have used "safe cut" by the wax shop for years and it takes very little effort to see the results and with the scatch x, I just couldnt see any result at all on the scatch I was working on but then like you mentioned, it may have been the method I was applying or the scatch I was working on may have been too deep. Ive just had alot better results with the safe cut.

 

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I actually meant them as two different questions. 1) which 3M product, and 2) why did someone tell you scratch-x wouldn't work?

Anyway, 3M makes numerous compounds and polishes. Do you happen to know the exact name of it? Depending on what product it was, it'll give you an idea of what else might or might not work. If it's a very heavy-cut 3M product, then any other stuff that's a lighter cut probably won't work either.

Let us know how it goes with Menzerna.

As to buying 3M, Poorboys, Menzerna, etc, all you really need is one line, any (quality) line, that has different levels of abrasive. Then work your way up the scale until you find something that works. All of those are good products, and will all probably produce the same results, it's just how they are used to produce it, and other factors that will determine which you like more. I'd say buy 2-3 different levels of cut of product and spend your time concentrating on the technique you are using rather than concentrating on buying more and more products.

The above is the 3M that I used perhaps it wasn't the right one or strong enough. I have not attempted to use the Merzerna Intensive or the Merzerna Power Gloss yet as my hand/finger is numb probably from using the leaf blower to dry car for over 30 minutes a month ago.

I am actually only using TWO different products and would prefer to stay with one but at this time I am experminting. So far though the two main Polishing systems I have used on two different cars are the Zaino System and the Klasse AIO and Klasse Sealant.

I like the out come of the Klasse system better as it produces a very slick,smooth slippery finish on one car. However, the Klasse Sealant is more difficult to work with compared to Zaino.

On my other car I am using Zaino and it isn't the same slippery smooth feeling but it is slippery enough to have a very very difficult time putting on a car cover. zaino is easy to put on and take off but has alot of repetitive steps unlike the Klasse AIO & Sealant as once that sealant dries it is very difficult to remove.
The other product Menzerna I will just use it for specific problems like the difficult swirls, scratches, and blemishes in paint I have on one car.
I don't think the Z-5 in the Zaino system is effective as far as filling in swirls.

I didn't order the poorboy swirl SSR 2.5 and SSR 3 removers as when I get a chance I want to see how the Menzerna polishes work.

Thanks for the info and I post my results when I use the Merzerna Intensive Polish for the difficult swirls, scratches, and onl if necessary use the Power Gloss.