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Why the shortage of C-6's?

Greenie said:
Do you mean C6? C6s are available at "decent" price points. Ive seen anywhere from list to $3000.00 under. BTW, liberty is using your brain and NOT your arms!!!

If only that was true.... I think this says it all

THE WAY OF THE WORLD IS FORCE
by Charley Reese

If someone puts a .45 to your head and pulls the trigger, you are going
to die. Laws, public opinion, ethics, ideals, treaties, Geneva conventions
and personal preferences will not prevent your death.

As a Buddhist sage observed, "If you understand, the world is the way it
is; if you do not understand, the world is the way it is."

The way of the world is force. You may not like that. You may choose
not to believe it. But it is true. The world is ruled by force.

Public opinion is worthless. It will not stop a handgun, much less a
tank or a missile. Law is nothing but rules you apply after you have subdued
people by force. Laws, without being backed up by more force, are not worth
the ink they're written with.

Americans suffer from peaceitis, a mental disability. It has the same
effect as a hallucinatory drug. It makes intelligent and educated people live
in an illusory world that never has existed.

Peaceitis results from living too long in an artificial environment in
which the reality of the world is concealed from view.

Most Americans who have never seen a burned corpse, a body torn apart by
shrapnel or bullets or those peculiar mouth-shapes left by a knife or bayonet
on flesh begin to think that words and ideas are what control the world, that
any difference can be negotiated, that any conflict can be managed. They
think that if everybody is well-fed and housed, they all will be nice.

The reality is that the most terrible things are done by well-fed, well-
housed people.

A penniless, starving peasant is no more of a threat than a crippled,
starving lion. He has no power. He's probably stupid as a result of protein
deficiency. He has no education. He has no training. He has no physical
energy. He cannot make a revolution. He cannot afford a bullet, much less a
gun. He is drudge labor, sometimes useful as cannon fodder. His principal
role is to be a victim.

Peasant revolutions are middle-class fantasies, useful propaganda tools.
In reality, they do not exist and never have.

The mild form of insanity known as peaceitis most recently manifested
itself in the reaction to the invasion of Grenada. Intellectual crooks and
peaceitis victims argued that Grenada was no threat to us. Of course, Grenada
by its self was no threat to us. Grenada was being converted to a platform
for Soviet Weapons.

This was being done by a government that imposed itself by force on the
people of Grenada. We removed the threat by force.

What keeps you alive and free are nuclear warheads, tanks, rifles,
machine guns and trained warriors ready to use them. It is not economics,
philosophy, ethics, negotiations, treaties or laws. Power and the will to use
it are the only things standing between us and the grave.

People infected with peaceitis are a threat to the physical safety of
themselves and their fellow Americans. They try to prevent the use of
American power. They try to prevent the proper arming and upkeep of our
military power. In their sickness some think that military power not only is
unnecessary but is evil in itself.

You cut a throat. The rightness or wrongness of it doesn't matter to the
dead man. He is still dead. Whether the death is a good death or bad death
depends on whether you like or dislike the dead person. Whether the man dies
or lives depends solely on whether the knife thrust can be deflected and the
knife wielder killed or disabled.

You can't depend on force, victims of peaceitis proclaim. Actually, you
can't depend on anything but force. Diplomacy works only if it's backed by
force. Diplomacy itself is about force; the threat of it, the use of it, the
direction of it. Peace is nothing but the aftermath of war or the interlude
between wars. War or the threat of war is what makes a peace, or else there
is no peace.

Whether people like us or hate us is irrelevant. Our choice is to be
feared or to be a victim. There is no other choice.


 
apeetoom@comcast.net said:
Check some of the other forums for their sponsering dealers. I got mine thru Spitzer Chevrolet (talk to Rick Conti) for about $3,000 under MSRP last Jan. Knows his stuff and is great to deal with. Return trip home was a great opportunity to break in the car (approx 1300 mi.)

Good sources:
http://www.corvetteforum.com/
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/

Hope I am not stepping on any toes here.

bought mine 03 Z06 from Rick as well....got a good deal.....can't complain at all....
 
6 Shooter said:
FYI - Millennium Yellow and Magnetic Red C6's have not gone down the assembly line for quite sometime. They are being replaced in 2006 with Velocity Yellow and Jewel.

Can a customer even place an order for a 2005 C6 at this time? ;shrug

Later . . . . . .
6 Shooter
I sure hope they change the RED back closer to TORCH RED...the new red is too dark for me....
 
I thought this was a forum to exchange ideas about cars, not to espouse political ideologies. Fastmover, you need to find another location.
 
FastMover said:
If only that was true.... I think this says it all



THE WAY OF THE WORLD IS FORCE

by Charley Reese

If someone puts a .45 to your head and pulls the trigger, you are going
to die. Laws, public opinion, ethics, ideals, treaties, Geneva conventions
and personal preferences will not prevent your death.

As a Buddhist sage observed, "If you understand, the world is the way it
is; if you do not understand, the world is the way it is."

The way of the world is force. You may not like that. You may choose
not to believe it. But it is true. The world is ruled by force.

Public opinion is worthless. It will not stop a handgun, much less a
tank or a missile. Law is nothing but rules you apply after you have subdued
people by force. Laws, without being backed up by more force, are not worth
the ink they're written with.

Americans suffer from peaceitis, a mental disability. It has the same
effect as a hallucinatory drug. It makes intelligent and educated people live
in an illusory world that never has existed.

Peaceitis results from living too long in an artificial environment in
which the reality of the world is concealed from view.

Most Americans who have never seen a burned corpse, a body torn apart by
shrapnel or bullets or those peculiar mouth-shapes left by a knife or bayonet
on flesh begin to think that words and ideas are what control the world, that
any difference can be negotiated, that any conflict can be managed. They
think that if everybody is well-fed and housed, they all will be nice.

The reality is that the most terrible things are done by well-fed, well-
housed people.

A penniless, starving peasant is no more of a threat than a crippled,
starving lion. He has no power. He's probably stupid as a result of protein
deficiency. He has no education. He has no training. He has no physical
energy. He cannot make a revolution. He cannot afford a bullet, much less a
gun. He is drudge labor, sometimes useful as cannon fodder. His principal
role is to be a victim.

Peasant revolutions are middle-class fantasies, useful propaganda tools.
In reality, they do not exist and never have.

The mild form of insanity known as peaceitis most recently manifested
itself in the reaction to the invasion of Grenada. Intellectual crooks and
peaceitis victims argued that Grenada was no threat to us. Of course, Grenada
by its self was no threat to us. Grenada was being converted to a platform
for Soviet Weapons.

This was being done by a government that imposed itself by force on the
people of Grenada. We removed the threat by force.

What keeps you alive and free are nuclear warheads, tanks, rifles,
machine guns and trained warriors ready to use them. It is not economics,
philosophy, ethics, negotiations, treaties or laws. Power and the will to use
it are the only things standing between us and the grave.

People infected with peaceitis are a threat to the physical safety of
themselves and their fellow Americans. They try to prevent the use of
American power. They try to prevent the proper arming and upkeep of our
military power. In their sickness some think that military power not only is
unnecessary but is evil in itself.

You cut a throat. The rightness or wrongness of it doesn't matter to the
dead man. He is still dead. Whether the death is a good death or bad death
depends on whether you like or dislike the dead person. Whether the man dies
or lives depends solely on whether the knife thrust can be deflected and the
knife wielder killed or disabled.

You can't depend on force, victims of peaceitis proclaim. Actually, you
can't depend on anything but force. Diplomacy works only if it's backed by
force. Diplomacy itself is about force; the threat of it, the use of it, the
direction of it. Peace is nothing but the aftermath of war or the interlude
between wars. War or the threat of war is what makes a peace, or else there
is no peace.

Whether people like us or hate us is irrelevant. Our choice is to be
feared or to be a victim. There is no other choice.



Apparently this man has no idea who Ernesto "Che" Guevara or Fidel Castro were, I might suggest reading the principles of guerilla warfare, before I'd discredit any peasant. I agree that violence is what wins wars, but I wouldn't be so quick to discredit anyone from being capable of violence.
 
yes fastmover. and I would add at what time in history can so many people of average or slightly above average means aspire to owning such a ( generally ) unnecessary ( to survival ) item as a Corvette? We are spoiled beyond our knowledge by the fruits of liberty maintained by the sacrifices of others to whom we owe so much ( Memorial Day just passed ).

good reading to understand your point might include "The 900 Days" or "Enemy at the Gates". Yes, the thread and forum is about cars but without our freedoms we could not enjoy the cars or obtain the fuel to drive them. We are all very lucky.
 
I guess we are approaching the need for a political forum?? IMO, freedom and liberty are fine just as long as its not worn on ones sleeve. Enough is enough!!
 
6 Shooter said:
FYI - Millennium Yellow and Magnetic Red C6's have not gone down the assembly line for quite sometime. They are being replaced in 2006 with Velocity Yellow and Jewel.

Can a customer even place an order for a 2005 C6 at this time? ;shrug

Later . . . . . .
6 Shooter

Mil Yellow and Mag Red were discontinued in March, and the replacement Velocity Yellow and Monterey Red are just starting to show up. According to dealers on other forums, you can order C6s now with a late July build datel
 
I have not seen the new yellow or red, but are they close to the old colors or are they really different?
 
apeetoom@comcast.net said:
Hope I am not stepping on any toes here.
apeetoom@comcast.net, I have to wonder about the motivations of someone whose first post on the CAC includes two links to other forums who are the CAC's competition as well as an exhortation for people to check them & their sponsoring dealers... and second post has a link to yet another website. I don't think anyone on this forum doesn't know there are other forums... but they choose to come here. Unlike the aforementioned forums, we on the CAC don't summarily terminate links to other forums but we certainly don't encourage our members to look elsewhere.... yes, you're stepping on toes.

For those who aren't aware, the CAC has a sponsoring dealership, Bob McDorman Chevrolet whose Corvette saleman, Mike Carr, aka JAGSFAN is a member of the CAC. I've found Mike to be very approachable, He'll do his best to answer any questions and he'll work hard to get your fanny into a Vette.

Greenie said:
I guess we are approaching the need for a political forum?? IMO, freedom and liberty are fine just as long as its not worn on ones sleeve. Enough is enough!!

Greenie, the CAC already has a political forum called The Edge and I agree with you... keep the politics where it's welcomed.

-Mac... Admin on The Edge.... :crazy
 
"Originally posted by Mac"
Greenie, the CAC already has a political forum called The Edge and I agree with you... keep the politics where it's welcomed.
-Mac... Admin on The Edge.... :crazy


Mac I agree and will do so in the future....


But it is interesting to note that it was Greenie's comment that got us off track in the first place and then he complainns about politics ......

"Quote Greenie"
BTW, liberty is using your brain and NOT your arms!!!
 
FastMover said:
Mac I agree and will do so in the future....
It's all good...

FastMover said:
But it is interesting to note that it was Greenie's comment that got us off track in the first place and then he complainns about politics ......
Oh well... Evidently, he didn't anticipate his words evoking the response they did.

-Mac
 
Sorry Mack. I wasn't aware that there is some kind of conflict with other sites. My impression was that the purpose of the various forums was to pass along information to their members.

Is it wrong to provide information gleaned at another site to help someone here? If it is, then I will be sure to keep my thoughts to myself in the future.

apeetoom@comcast.net
 
apeetoom@comcast.net said:
Sorry Mack. I wasn't aware that there is some kind of conflict with other sites. My impression was that the purpose of the various forums was to pass along information to their members.

Is it wrong to provide information gleaned at another site to help someone here? If it is, then I will be sure to keep my thoughts to myself in the future.

apeetoom@comcast.net

Well, that's kind of like going into Home Depot, going to the loud speaker and telling everyone that they should check out Lowes.
 
apeetoom@comcast.net, I have no problem with you providing information or even linking to other websites but you didn't provide information- you said:

apeetoom@comcast.net said:
Check some of the other forums for their sponsering dealers.


Then you listed two other Corvette-related forums as "good sources" which is true... but that ignores the fact the CAC is a better source of information than either of those you listed... and we have sponsoring dealerships willing to share information and help arrange sales here as well.

As far as I know, there's no conflicts between this and the other major Corvette-related websites other than that which might be expected between any competitors within this world-wide-web.

At the end of the day, if you're here to enjoy our community, to access our extensive database and contribute information, you're more than welcome.

-Mac
 
apeetoom@comcast.net said:
Sorry Mack. I wasn't aware that there is some kind of conflict with other sites. My impression was that the purpose of the various forums was to pass along information to their members.

Is it wrong to provide information gleaned at another site to help someone here? If it is, then I will be sure to keep my thoughts to myself in the future.

apeetoom@comcast.net

Here are my thoughts on this....last week at our CruiseFest event, everyone asked me how they could help support the site. My response to them was at first, "nothing....participation in the forums is all I'd like." Then, I realized and told them: "if you want to really help support THIS site, then utilize the Sponsors we have at THIS site. If you're looking for a particular aftermarket item, etc., visit MidAmerica by clicking on their banner here and going to their web site. Looking for a Corvette? Click on BOB MCDORMAN CHEVROLET'S advertisement and go to their web site. They are the ones that pay the money to advertise here, and it's their money that helps keep this site up and running."

Not sure of who our sponsors are? Click on the Sponsors link in the upper right hand corner. That link appears on every single page of this web site.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with passing on information from other web sites that could be helpful. However, when we have Sponsors here, that help support our web site, then, I would hope that our members would check out our sponsors first, before going to another web site's sponsors.

I don't know....call me crazy, but that just seems like the more rational thing to do.
 
Rob said:
Here are my thoughts on this....last week at our CruiseFest event, everyone asked me how they could help support the site. My response to them was at first, "nothing....participation in the forums is all I'd like." Then, I realized and told them: "if you want to really help support THIS site, then utilize the Sponsors we have at THIS site. If you're looking for a particular aftermarket item, etc., visit MidAmerica by clicking on their banner here and going to their web site. Looking for a Corvette? Click on BOB MCDORMAN CHEVROLET'S advertisement and go to their web site. They are the ones that pay the money to advertise here, and it's their money that helps keep this site up and running."

Not sure of who our sponsors are? Click on the Sponsors link in the upper right hand corner. That link appears on every single page of this web site.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with passing on information from other web sites that could be helpful. However, when we have Sponsors here, that help support our web site, then, I would hope that our members would check out our sponsors first, before going to another web site's sponsors.

I don't know....call me crazy, but that just seems like the more rational thing to do.

Well, I for one have found some very good ideas and located some helpful products which I've purchased. The real value of a site such as this is the wealth of information from Vette owners or mechanics who've recognized a problem, found a solution, and are willing to share the knowledge. Sure is nice not having to re-invent the wheel. I appreciate the contributions, and I appreciate the sponsors.

Keep on keeping on!!

-Bernie
 
I responded to something I read in a post. It was political. I didnt send you "off course'. You managed to do that yourself!
 
Greenie said:
I responded to something I read in a post. It was political. I didnt send you "off course'. You managed to do that yourself!
Actually, you responded to SatansVette's signature which is a bit political... :)

-Mac
 

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