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The LT1 with highway gears and auto, in stock form is a bit of a dog, my 85 with a few mods will walk away from a LT1 in this form.



Or sell it on ebay and take a major hit.


Trying to judge somethings worth by ebay is a bit crazy, the same car could go up on ebay next week and not make it over 5k, the week after it might go for 17-18k. Ebay can be good for getting rid of something quickly, but not at premium price...then again, you could get lucky and get several people hyped up in a bidding war all determined to win and it could hit 20k. Not very likely, but that's just the nature of auctions.

As for LT1 auto's being dog's, I'm not sure what you consider a dog here, and I'm definitely not the fastest car, but mine with very few changes runs 9.0's at about 82mph through an 1/8th. I haven't ran a 1/4, but I believe that should translate into 13.9's at 112-114ish...like I said, I'm not the fastest around, but I'm not concerned about being the slowest either.;)
 
Trying to judge somethings worth by ebay is a bit crazy, the same car could go up on ebay next week and not make it over 5k, the week after it might go for 17-18k. Ebay can be good for getting rid of something quickly, but not at premium price...then again, you could get lucky and get several people hyped up in a bidding war all determined to win and it could hit 20k. Not very likely, but that's just the nature of auctions.

As for LT1 auto's being dog's, I'm not sure what you consider a dog here, and I'm definitely not the fastest car, but mine with very few changes runs 9.0's at about 82mph through an 1/8th. I haven't ran a 1/4, but I believe that should translate into 13.9's at 112-114ish...like I said, I'm not the fastest around, but I'm not concerned about being the slowest either.;)
I'd have to agree that ebay is a pour judge .Maybe others are foolish but i'd rather look touch and feel .It's the same as buying a used car from a mail order newspaper flyer.;)
 
Don't want you to think we three ladies are ignoring your apology. Let me be the first to accept it! :)

Just be careful in the future...there are many women who are active in the Corvette world and on CAC, too! We don't take kindly to generalizations like yours.;LOL

Elaine

I accept you accepting my apology:w, The women on CAC are all major hotties(especialy GS Diva:drool: ) and quite savy in the corvette world.

GS Divas you are smart and oh so hot, your melting my hard drive.
 
GS Diva,

Do you sell older corvettes?

What can you do for me on an 89 vette 6 speed?:w

Are you married:D

Do you like:beer or:m?
 
My point is NOT what you or I paid back then, it is what we can sell for NOW. I paid $16+- for mine 2 yrs ago, and that was too much, but trying to sell now, makes it worse. I have it in the Auto Trader at $15,000 now and NO ONE IS CALLING... so they are dead www.krempacorvette.com

It amazes me that people seem to think that selling a Corvette at a loss somehow violates the laws of nature. You bought your car 2 years ago for $16+ (which was too high in your opinion). If you bought it from the original owner he took at least a $22,000 hit on the car. Also, you paid for it in cheaper 2005 dollars.

There were more than 350,000 C4s built. With few exceptions they are not now, and most likely never will be, collector cars. They are used cars and should be viewed as such.
 
It amazes me that people seem to think that selling a Corvette at a loss somehow violates the laws of nature. You bought your car 2 years ago for $16+ (which was too high in your opinion). If you bought it from the original owner he took at least a $22,000 hit on the car. Also, you paid for it in cheaper 2005 dollars.

There were more than 350,000 C4s built. With few exceptions they are not now, and most likely never will be, collector cars. They are used cars and should be viewed as such.

Ouch!
 
There were more than 350,000 C4s built. With few exceptions they are not now, and most likely never will be, collector cars. They are used cars and should be viewed as such.

When C2s hit the market the price of Solid Axles fell through the floor. The same thing happened to C2s with the introduction of the C3 etc. When I left the states in 85 I put my '82 in storage because I could not get a fair offer for it. It is worth much more now than it was 20 years ago.

When I remember the prices I sold my 60 and 63 for I just want to :cry so I think about what I paid for Thunder and the ZR-1 and :D:D:D instead.

I learned my lesson well. I no longer sell cars; occasionally somebody insist on buying one from me. i.e. The German that paid 30K++ for the ZR-1.

If you want a fair price for your Vette just hold on to it for a few years.

:w
 
Originally Posted by jrzvette

There were more than 350,000 C4s built. With few exceptions they are not now, and most likely never will be, collector cars. They are used cars and should be viewed as such.



When C2s hit the market the price of Solid Axles fell through the floor. The same thing happened to C2s with the introduction of the C3 etc. When I left the states in 85 I put my '82 in storage because I could not get a fair offer for it. It is worth much more now than it was 20 years ago.
:w

I understand what you're saying but don't forget there were less than 200,000 C1 and C2s combined. Add in the chrome bumper sharks (the most desireable of the C3's) and you still have only about 290,000 cars produced over a 20 year period.

Now, consider the fact that before, say the 1980's, Corvettes were not considered anything other than a car. Many were daily drivers. They were abused, modified, some were even cannibalized. Compare that to the owners of today; "never seen rain or snow", "garaged kept" (and covered), "oil changed every 1000 miles". There just aren't a lot of early models left and supply and demand works well. Someone looking to buy a 65 fulie converible will have to pay the price the owner of one of the few remaining ones asks; someone looking for welll maintained 93 Ruby 6 speed has his pick of the litter. I'm sure we've all seen a rolling chasis from a 67 big block or a body shell from a 57 fulie going for more than most well maintained and pampered C4s. I bought my 69 about 10 years ago, now it's worth almost twice what I paid. I could have gotten the same result putting the money in a bank and had a lot less headaches and skinned knuckles (and a lot less fun).
 
Just wait, the C1 and C2 market is mostly dried up. the C3 is finally coming into it's own as far as value goes. C4 has a long way to go before it becomes a valued collector car. Even more so for the 90 through 96 (though technology wise the 93 through 96 are concidered to be the "best buy" supposedly all the bugs worked out). "WE" as C4 owners just need to appreciate our "daily" drivers for what they are - "A Great American Sports Car" and bide our time. Eventually it will get here.

Charlie
 
I was offered 14K last week for my '91 and turn it down. there is an old saying about when two fools met. one was a fool for offering and the other was a fool not accepting.

I turned it down because I love this car and wanted to keep it.
 
I was offered 14K last week for my '91 and turn it down. there is an old saying about when two fools met. one was a fool for offering and the other was a fool not accepting.

And every time a stock trades on the exchange someone made a mistake.
 
I'm with Igeaux

I learned my lesson well. I no longer sell cars; occasionally somebody insist on buying one from me. i.e. The German that paid 30K++ for the ZR-1.

If you want a fair price for your Vette just hold on to it for a few years.
:w


You are a wise man, indeed, Spanish. That has been my philosophy as well. I have 2 '70 El Caminos I have had for several years now. I paid $600 for both-running vehicles. A guest at my home recently viewed them and is quite willing to give me what I want for one ($2K), after I took the ('64 Impala SS) 327 from it and replaced it with a 2-barrel 307. Yes, I know we are talking Corvettes here, but it really applies to all older cars. Look at Camaros, Mustangs, the early Plymouths. If you hang onto something long enough, someone will want it.

I just scored a '72 Malibu hardtop (V-8/auto) for $500. I towed it to the car wash, vacuumed inside and the trunk, pulled it into the bay, and while washing it, a guy (in a C-6 Corvette!) walked up and offered me $1500 for it. Same day, half hour later.
I turned him down, figure I'd get it fired, tuned (needs timing chain) and detailed and get more. Ohhh, yeahhhh....:D

Rick
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Problem is that C4 are "tweeners." The aren't new (and modern) and they aren't really old (and collectible). Until they slide into the "collectible" age it's going to be problematical to retain value. Right now they are just really great drivers, and reliable enough to be enjoyed daily. That would be a good thing.:upthumbs
 
Just wait, the C1 and C2 market is mostly dried up. the C3 is finally coming into it's own as far as value goes. C4 has a long way to go before it becomes a valued collector car. Even more so for the 90 through 96 (though technology wise the 93 through 96 are concidered to be the "best buy" supposedly all the bugs worked out). "WE" as C4 owners just need to appreciate our "daily" drivers for what they are - "A Great American Sports Car" and bide our time. Eventually it will get here.

Charlie

Bugs worked out? The more junk they added to the C4 the more bugs were added.

example 86 added ABS, expensive to fix, ruddy speed sensors.

92 LT1, added optispark, Didn't GM learn anything from eighties movies? "Just don't get them wet"............ If you didn't catch that one, its from the movie GREMLINS.

WHY put a distributor under a water pump let alone on the front of the engine.

They took a step backwards by going to speed density, and then hey that was wrong so they switch back to MAF.

I like early C4s, cheap and easy to mod and to fix.

Just added an air foil;shrug everyone else has one?

Now the car does this :lou
 
The C4 A "Tweener"...I say The C5 is the "Tweener"

<<<Yes there were many C4's built in the 1984-1996 period but one must remember, this was indeed a revoulutionary car at introduction. "The Finest Handling Production Car Ever Built". OK, so they are not old yet, but good condition C4's still find gauking eyes and admiring glances. Valet last weekend said to me "What year is that"... "1996" I replied..."That is a beautiful car" he said admiringly. I must say again...the special edition (fine condition) C4's are starting to climb in value. The early runs (I believe they made over 40k 1984's and over 35k 1985's) not much and frankly, maybe not for many years. If one is looking to purchase a C4 as an investment one must make certain it is a special edition. That said; the C4 remains a kick to drive and perhaps one of the great used sports car values today.

Per my title line...The C5 (IMO) will prove to be the phantom issue. The Corvette nobody wants or cares about.>>>
Problem is that C4 are "tweeners." The aren't new (and modern) and they aren't really old (and collectible). Until they slide into the "collectible" age it's going to be problematical to retain value. Right now they are just really great drivers, and reliable enough to be enjoyed daily. That would be a good thing.:upthumbs
 

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