(Callaway, quick!) The good, gets even better!!!!

[*89x2*]

Whoa!!!!!

From yesterday's test session:

2008 Coupe, 3LT, Z51, man. trans.

with Callaway Honker Cold Air Induction installed. Otherwise stock.
Used drag radials.
279 miles on odometer at time of run.

11.562 sec @ 118.82 mph

I think this is sufficient to put this run at the top of the "bolt-ons only" list.

 

[*89x2*]

Both at the top, are Callaway Cars

Here is a list of other C6's from another poular Corvette performance/Tech website forum:

External Engine Modifications (Bolt-Ons)
11.56 @ 118.82 - Callaway Cars (MCV) - 08 Z51 M6 - CAI, DRs
11.62 @ 117.48 - Dennis50NJ - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI, catback, headers, converter, tuning, DR
11.76 @ 119.00 - NastyC6 -05 Z51 A4 - CAI, converter, 3.73 gears, headers, Ported Intake, TB & tune
11.81 @ 118.76 - Joe G - 05 Z51 M6 - CAI, headers, 3.90 gears, ported intake,tune
11.87 @ 112.99 - Cucchiara - 05 A4 - CAI, catback, headers, converter, tune, DR's
11.94 @ 117.99 - JimSpeed - 06 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback, headers
12.01 @ 116.00 - Mr Z51 - 06 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback, headers, ported intake, tune, DR
12.03 @ 118.50 - Serendipity - 06 M6 - CAI, catback, headers
12.04 @ 114.01 - 06C6FVR - 06 Z51 M6 - Mufflers, tune, DR
12.05 @ 117.02 - CYA Vett - 05 F55 M6 - headers
12.08 @ 117.00 - Forrest -06 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback, headers, Tune, DR
12.17 @ 119.00 - RHecox - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI, catback Headers
12.18 @ 117.54 - 8850 - 08 A6 - Headers, tune
12.18 @ 115.85 - Mdrrandall - 07 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback
12.18 @ 114.00 - Toptoneone - 06 Z51 M6 - CAI, Catback, headers, tune DR
12.21 @ 115.14 - Shocker Racing - 05 M6 - Homemade Air filter & DR
12.22 @ 116.70 - Ponchorello -05 A4 3.15 - CAI, headers,Tune
12.26 @ 119.40 - Dstage - 06 M6 - CAI, catback, headers & Intake
12.26 @ 116.65 - Waveblaster785 - 06 Z51 A6 - Catback, headers, Intake
12.37 @ 117.67 - Nicodemus - 05 M6 - CAI, catback, headers, gears, tune
12.37 @ 112.29 - CTVette05 - 05 A4 3.15 - catback, headers
12.39 @ 115.50 - Tony96 LT4 - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI, TB, DR
12.41 @ 115.40 - Icebourg - 05 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback
12.41 @ 114.85 - C5Pilot - 07 Z51 A6 - CAI, DR
12.41 @ 112.07 - WS6JJP - 05 Z51 M6 - catback
12.42 @ 116.12 - YellowVette22 - 05 F55 M6 - CAI, catback, headers, DR
12.48 @ 114.40 - Mike Campbell - 06 A6 - CAI, stat
12.48 @ 113.00 - Demented - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI
12.49 @ 114.43 - Colinsmom -06 A6 Z51 - CAI, catback & headers
12.49 @ 113.50 - 12 Oh - 06 A6 - CAI, catback, headers, tune, DR
12.50 @ 118.00 - Larry Chip - 05 M6 - CAI, catback, tune
12.50 @ 115.20 - Flooznie - 05 A4 - tune
12.50 @ 114.10 - Toptoneone - 06 Z51 M6 - Catback, DR
12.51 @ 113.56 - Jelsis - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI
12.52 @ 115.26 - Tony B4 - 06 A6 - Cai, catback, headers, tune
12.52 @ 114.43 - Glennhl - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI, headers
12.53 @ 113.78 - Ultimate CC - 07 Z51 M6 - Cai
12.54 @ 113.63 - Anky1631 - 05 M6 - CAI, catback
12.55 @ 115.85 - Yell03 - 06 M6 - CAI, catback
12.55 @ 114.95 - Shurite44 - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI, catback, headers
12.55 @ 111.98 - 2003Anniversary - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI, catback, headers
12.57 @ 113.04 - Jschindler - 05 F55 M6 - catback
12.57 @ 110.67 - Yell03 - 05 A4 3.15 - catback
12.59 @ 113.46 - Badassbu - 07 A6 - CAI
12.60 @ 114.00 - SScamaro - 05 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback, headers, tune
12.63 @ 112.35 - Lusky - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI, 325 tires
12.65 @ 113.70 - Hitman99 -06 A6 - CAI, headers, tune (cow)
12.65 @ 111.39 - Sditch - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI
12.71 @ 113.70 - C6Brian -07 M6 - Tune
12.77 @ 110.18 - CMB13 - 05 Z51 M6 - catback, DR
12.78 @ 112.50 - dan-t - 06 A6 - tune
12.80 @ xxx.xx - Thanos - 05 Z51 A4 - catback
12.83 @ 111.00 - TMyers - 06 A6 - CAI, Tune
12.88 @ 112.50 - MickyC6 - 05 M6 - CAI, catback, tune
12.89 @ 112.57 - Bunk22 - 05 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback, headers rockers. tune
12.89 @ 112.00 - Tom400CFI - 05 Z51, M6 - catback
12.93 @ 110.64 - C6Vette -05 Z51 M6 - CAI, catback, tune
12.97 @ 111.22 - Zoli007 - 06 Z51 M6 - catback
12.97 @ 109.00 - Tsnipe11 - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI, Headers, Tune
12.99 @ 111.25 - Parkev - 05 Z51 M6 - catback
13.30 @ 110.00 - Chempowr - 05 F55 M6 - CAI, catback
13.32 @ 108.87 - CorvettePilot - 05 Z51 M6 - catback
13.95 @ 104.94 - Fright88 - 06 A6 -catback, headers

Internal Engine Modifications
10.76 @ 128.59 - Callaway Cars (MCV) -05 M6 - Callaway 550 package gears, DR
10.87 @ 125.33 - Tek-Newbie - 05 A4 - CAI, catback, converter, H&C, headers, 3.42 gears, intake, tune, DR
11.23 @ 123.00 - Texas Ranger 06 M6 - CAI, cam, catback, headers, pullies. tune, 4.10& Z06 tires
11.49 @ 125.62 - Wa$nt me - 06 Z51 M6 - CAI, cam, catback, headers, intake, pullies, tune
11.50 @ 125.76 - BlownV6 - 06 A6 CAI, catback, headers, H&C, tune, slicks
11.53 @ 124.97 - Boiler RXC6 - 05 F55 M6 - CAI, catback, H&C, headers, intake, tune
11.62 @ 124.64 - High Roller1 - 06 Z51 A6 - CAI, catback, headers, H&C, UD pullies, tune, DR
11.68 @ 122.42 - RDD41 - 06 A4 - LPE 403 package
11.76 @ 116.76 - 1955 Belair - 05 Z51 A4 - CAI, catback, converter, H&C, headers, intake, tune, DR
11.79 @ 120.12 - Greentank - 06 A6 CAI, catback, headers heads & cam 3.15 gears
11.80 @ 123.50 - Xstang - 05 Z51 M6 - CAI, H&C, headers, 4.10 gears, tune, DR
11.98 @ 120.87 - Mr Z51 - 06 Z51 M6 - CAI, Cam, 4.10 gears, headers, ported intake, UD pullies, DR
12.01 @ 121.06 - Evilways -06 Z51 A6 - Cam, headers, tune
13.12 @ 119.00 - Mitchell242 - 05 M6 - CAI, catback, H&C, headers, intake, tune

 

[TurboLuigi]

Nice!...

No run with a Supercharged LS3 yet?:J

-Luigi
:cool

 

[*89x2*]

How it's done...

Thought this was interesting as well w

Copied from another thread earlier today:

We've been getting several inquiries about the validity of the performance data since I posted the results of our test session yesterday at the dragstrip. Callers are questioning the 0.3 - 0.4 sec improvement from Honker installation only. I thought I should clarify how Callaway arrives at the data we publish.

Callaway engineers have a battery of performance measurement processes available to them to quantify the performance of a given product. Acceleration testing at the dragstrip is only one of them. They also measure airflow on the flowbench and a host of operating parameters on engine and chassis dynamometers. Our engineers also record road course test data, skid pad data, performance data over a predetermined street circuit, etc. The test protocol is selected as a function of the product and how it's used. The cars that the engineers use to perform this testing are prepared only to simulate real world conditions. In some cases, preparation may also include installing parts to remove other variables from affecting test results. For example, specific tires are installed in order to provide consistent dragstrip results, so we can accurately measure the difference in performance of the part itself. However, there's no icing of intake manifolds, or special fuel, or special suspension setups (unless we're testing Callaway suspension, of course), or anything else done to try to get the best possible performance. The engineers are more concerned with eliminating all of the variables that can potentially skew the results one way or the other.

In the case of this test session, the car was specially prepared in that the radiator shroud was modified and the filter base was installed at the factory, then the hole was blocked off for use with the stock intake. This let the engineers change from baseline-stock to Honker-equipped at the race track within a few minutes of making baseline passes. Thus, track and atmospheric conditions would be more consistent during both sets of runs. A-B-A testing had to be performed so they had to revert to the stock air intake after testing the Honker to verify that the improvement was valid. The only other preparation was installing drag radials at the track to provide consistent launches, not possible with stock tires. This particular car only had 275 - 280 miles on the odometer when this testing was performed and was driven to and from the track.

Our performance claim for the LS3 Honker is 0.3 to 0.4 seconds on an otherwise completely stock 2008 Corvette. With yesterday's acceleration testing, several passes were made in each configuration. If the median data is used, the improvement is closer to 0.3 seconds than it is to 0.4 seconds. However, if all of the data from this session is considered, the difference in ET's is, in fact, as much as 0.4 seconds. In Callaway's typically-conservative style, LS3 Honker advertising will specify "approximately 0.3 sec improvement in elapsed time" was recorded.

Sorry for the length of the post, and I don't know whether I convinced anyone that we're not lying about test results, but because of the tone of the questions we received today, I thought we should offer an explanation.​

 

[*89x2*]

Nice!...

No run with a Supercharged LS3 yet?:J

-Luigi
:cool

No, but I asked - SOON!!!!!!!!!

 

[*89x2*]

Baseline and changes, tracked -

Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Callaway Test/Development Vehicle = 2008 LS3 M6 Coupe w/ Z51 and NPP (VIN: 1G1YY26W085100836) - OE Calibration

Chassis Dyno Results - October 10, 2007 (Odometer @ start = 159 miles)

Testing conducted on DynoJet 248 @ Dynolab, Putnam, CT. All data SAE corrected. All runs started @ 2000rpm, ending @ 6500rpm)

OE (Hood Open) - 3 Runs - 1:51pm to 1:57pm - (P@5900rpm / T@4700rpm):

Run Ref 1 = 392.5 / 390.4 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 75 / 79 - 207 / 210
Run Ref 2 = 393.0 / 391.2 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 79 / 79 - 207 / 210
Run Ref 3 = 391.5 / 389.4 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 79 / 79 - 208 / 212

3 Run Avg = 392.3 / 390.3 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 78 / 79 - 207 / 211

OE (Hood Closed) - 1 Run - 2:00pm - (P@5900rpm / T@4700rpm):

Run = 386.4 / 383.6 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 81 / 100 - 210 / 210

Callaway Honker (Hood Open) - 3 Runs - 2:21pm to 2:30pm - (P@5900rpm / T@4700rpm):

Run Ref 4 = 400.4/399.3 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 72 / 75 - 201 / 203
Run Ref 5 = 404.8/397.6 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 75 / 77 - 205 / 207
Run Ref 6 = 402.8/395.8 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 77 / 82 - 214 / 216

3 Run Avg = 402.7 / 397.6 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 75 / 78 - 207 / 209

Callaway Honker (Hood Closed) - 1 Run - 2:33pm - (P@5900rpm / T@4700rpm):

Run = 402.9 / 395.9 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 77 / 79 - 212 / 216

Conclusion: Callaway Honker vs OE Intake Chassis Dyno SAE P/T Increase = 16.5/12.3 (hood closed) and 10.4/7.3 (hood open)

Drag Test Results - October 10, 2007 (Odometer @ start = 281 miles)

Testing conducted at New England Dragway, Epping, NH. All data as observed w/o correction. See recorded atmospheric conditions below.
Tire for all runs = M.T. E/T @ 13psi cold. Launch @ 48 00rpm - Shift @ 6400rpm all runs (indicated). Traction System and Active Handling OFF all runs.

OE - Dry = 64°F / Wet = 61°F / Baro = 28.54 inHg (time of day / 60'(s) / 1/8M(s@mph) / 1/4M (s@mph)

Run Ref A = 6:31pm / 1.740 / 7.697@91.74 / 11.941@115.80 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 91 / 70 - 223 / 223 (MAP = 98 kPa @ finish)
Run Ref B = 6:40pm / 1.822 / 7.743@91.99 / 11.974@116.16 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 91 / 70 - 217 / 219 (MAP = 98 kPa @ finish)
Run Ref C = 6:47pm / 1.728 / 7.709@91.71 / 11.951@115.89 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 93 / 70 - 226 / 221 (MAP = 98 kPa @ finish)

3 Run Avg = 1.763 / 7.716@91.81 / 11.955@115.95 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 92 / 70 - 222 / 221 (MAP = 98 kPa @ finish)

Callaway Honker - Dry = 60°F / Wet = 65°F / Baro = 28.62 inHg (time of day / 60'(s) / 1/8M(s@mph) / 1/4M (s@mph)

Run Ref D = 7:20pm / 1.702 / 7.496@93.56 / 11.666@117.88 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 75 / 63 - 223 / 221 (MAP = 100 kPa @ finish)
Run Ref E = 7:31pm / 1.788 / 7.548@93.92 / 11.704@118.26 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 73 / 61 - 225 / 223 (MAP = 100 kPa @ finish)
Run Ref F = 8:41pm / 1.766 / 7.528@93.88 / 11.690@118.05 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 72 / 61 - 225 / 221 (MAP = 100 kPa @ finish)

3 Run Avg = 1.752 / 7.524@ 93.79 / 11.687@118.06 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 73 / 62 - 224 / 222 (MAP = 100 kPa @ finish)

Conclusion: Callaway Honker vs OE Intake 1/4 Mile Vehicle Performance Improvement (ET/mph) = 0.268 s / 2.11 mph

At the end of instrumented testing, we made one last pass w/ Callaway Honker:

Run Ref G = 9:13pm / 1.771 / 7.452@95.24 / 11.562@118.82

 

[darkstar]

YOU just made my day

 

[redb2k's]

I am sure there is a red one they can test very shortly.

 

[*89x2*]

I am sure there is a red one they can test very shortly.

...that one WAS red :ugh

 

[*89x2*]

:cool

From Mike Zoner, Callaway's Managing Director and the driver of the '08 in this test session:

The reason for dragstrip performance increase is:

1. closer to ambient inlet air temp
2. reduction in inlet restriction throughout engine and vehicle speed range @ full load
3. increase in MAP @ higher vehicle speeds. For reference: +2 kPa at end of 1/4 mile

Again, summary dyno data:

OE Intake w/Hood Open 3 Run Avg =
392.3 rwhp/ 390.3 lb-ft; IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 78 / 79 - 207 / 211
Honker Hood Open 3 Run Avg =
402.7 rwhp/ 397.6 lb-ft; IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 75 / 78 - 207 / 209

OE Intake w/Hood Closed 3 Run Avg =
386.4 rwhp/ 383.6 lb-ft; IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 81 / 100 - 210 / 210
Honker Hood Closed 3 Run Avg =
402.9 rwhp/ 395.9 lb-ft; IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 77 / 79 - 212 / 216

Conclusion: Callaway Honker vs OE Intake Chassis Dyno SAE P/T Increase = 16.5 rwhp/12.3 lb-ft (hood closed) and 10.4 rwhp/7.3 lb-ft (hood open)

Regarding drag testing, note following summary data:

OE 3 Run Avg =
1.763 / 7.716@91.81 / 11.955@115.95 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 92 / 70 - 222 / 221 (MAP = 98 kPa @ finish)
Honker 3 Run Avg =
1.752 / 7.524@ 93.79 / 11.687@118.06 : IAT(°F) - ECT(°F) @ start / finish = 73 / 62 - 224 / 222 (MAP = 100 kPa @ finish)

60' delta = 0.012 s
1/8M delta = 0.192 s, 1.98 mph
1/4M delta = 0.268 s, 2.11 mph

My experience (testing with C4/C5/C6 Corvettes over the past 19 years) would say the 0.012 s advantage in the first 60' would equate to a 0.018 s advantage at the end of the 1/4 (1.5 x 0.012), so call it a 0.25 s advantage and 2 mph.

The results are the results. The Honker continuously demonstrated improvements in vehicle performance as compared with the OE. This testing was conducted at a public venue, for all to witness. No closed doors.


Regards,

Michael Zoner
Managing Director​

 

[darkstar]

Talked to callaway this morning. He said they would be testing by Dec and hopefully finalized on the LS3 Supercharger by the new year

 

[*89x2*]

Talked to callaway this morning. He said they would be testing by Dec and hopefully finalized on the LS3 Supercharger by the new year

...New Year resolution: MORE POWER!!!!!!!

 

[darkstar]

right on *89x2*