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sothpaw
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Hi everyone,
I just wanted to share my Carslile experiences with all of you.
I went only on Friday and spent the late morning (when I got there) and early afternoon looking at the C6 and watching it be dyno'd.
Dyno impressions:
First, let me say, the C6 is one hell of a quiet car. You all wanted to hear what it would sound like when you turn the key? Well, here it is:____
Even on the dyno, you could hardly hear it until it was over 3000 rpm.
The numbers: 347 rwhp, 349 rwtq. The power curve is not flat at high rpm though, it peaks at maybe 6000 rpm with the high area between 5500 and 6500. This was Chip Miller's son's car, and he is sending it to Callaway for a make over, goal is for a 10 s car in the 1/4 mi. They will also test at the drag strip somewhere soon...
Contrast that to the Z06, which was also stock and dyno'd just minutes earlier (there was 1 C3 between them that made 266 rwhp, 330 rwtq):
360 rwhp, 347 rwtq. SUPER FLAT HP CURVE UP HIGH. It was completely flat at 360 rwhp from 5200 rpm to 6600 rpm. Amazing.
Needless to say, there were some disappointed folks there, no cheers. I expected a little less from the C5 Z06, perhaps that was a strong example. I expected a flatter Hp curve at the top end of the C6--my heads cam C4 is flat up top, but only from 5800 to 64xx (rev limited).
C6 looks/feel impressions:
I must have been too early for Rob on Friday--I did not see him at the EGR tent. Dave Hill entered the tent and walked right by me. This was around 11:00. Last year he actually interupted a conversation I was having with Harlan Charles. Like Rob says, these guys are busy, they have a job to do; I respect them for that and try not to waste their time. I talked with Harlan just briefly and he seemed to say that things went smoothly with the C6 plant change over at Bowling green. I did notice that the GM guys tended to talk amongst themselves a lot, just a natural tendency.
C6 Exterior:
The first thing that comes to mind is: more angular, more agressive, more racy on the exterior. But very C5. Can't avoid that. I like the rear end, I think it is a little better, more rounded. But not that different than C5--over at the Kerbeck corner, they had a C6 and C5 with the rear facias adjacent, and it was plainly obvious that it's no radical departure.
I don't like the front, but it's less noticiable in pictures than in person. Still looks like it's smiling at me or something, I don't like that grill. I also like the head lights on the Callaway C12 much better than the C6 lights, if they had to go the fixed route.
C5's profile (side view) was always it's strong suite. Same with C6. Similar design, more angular. I really see what they mean by F-22 influence. I don't thing it's necessarily better than C5, just more sporty.
I did not like the experimental gun-metal wheels shown on the black car, but the stock C6 wheel is very, very nice. The best yet, except maybe the ZR1 5 spoke.
C6 interior
I hate the steering wheel. But I kept negative comments to myself in that tent, I'm sure they've heard it before. I also hate the driver's door--no handle to get out, you have to use this electonic switch. I couldn't get out at first!!!
The feel of the seat is better than C5--tighter, like C4. Leather is nicer than either C5 or C4, nice and couchy.
Interior materials--I was expecting to be wow'd, but I was not. I ran my fingers over the dash, seats, shifter, console, driver center. Nicer than plastic, but I would say equal to the feel of the C4 dash (mine is 1993) over the passenger side.
Shifter--nice looking. But I can't feel a short-throw difference between this and C5, as I could when C5 came out vs C4. Clutch is also VERY SOFT, not to my liking, but everybody's different.
Price
Harlan said Coupes are around 44 base and 'verts 52 base. There was not one 'vert at Carslile that I saw, and very few automatics, actually, just 2 that I saw (one at engr. tent, one at Kerbeck). Nevertheless, with options, Kerbeck wanted around 52k for the coupes. A definite price jump.
I just wanted to share my Carslile experiences with all of you.
I went only on Friday and spent the late morning (when I got there) and early afternoon looking at the C6 and watching it be dyno'd.
Dyno impressions:
First, let me say, the C6 is one hell of a quiet car. You all wanted to hear what it would sound like when you turn the key? Well, here it is:____
Even on the dyno, you could hardly hear it until it was over 3000 rpm.
The numbers: 347 rwhp, 349 rwtq. The power curve is not flat at high rpm though, it peaks at maybe 6000 rpm with the high area between 5500 and 6500. This was Chip Miller's son's car, and he is sending it to Callaway for a make over, goal is for a 10 s car in the 1/4 mi. They will also test at the drag strip somewhere soon...
Contrast that to the Z06, which was also stock and dyno'd just minutes earlier (there was 1 C3 between them that made 266 rwhp, 330 rwtq):
360 rwhp, 347 rwtq. SUPER FLAT HP CURVE UP HIGH. It was completely flat at 360 rwhp from 5200 rpm to 6600 rpm. Amazing.
Needless to say, there were some disappointed folks there, no cheers. I expected a little less from the C5 Z06, perhaps that was a strong example. I expected a flatter Hp curve at the top end of the C6--my heads cam C4 is flat up top, but only from 5800 to 64xx (rev limited).
C6 looks/feel impressions:
I must have been too early for Rob on Friday--I did not see him at the EGR tent. Dave Hill entered the tent and walked right by me. This was around 11:00. Last year he actually interupted a conversation I was having with Harlan Charles. Like Rob says, these guys are busy, they have a job to do; I respect them for that and try not to waste their time. I talked with Harlan just briefly and he seemed to say that things went smoothly with the C6 plant change over at Bowling green. I did notice that the GM guys tended to talk amongst themselves a lot, just a natural tendency.
C6 Exterior:
The first thing that comes to mind is: more angular, more agressive, more racy on the exterior. But very C5. Can't avoid that. I like the rear end, I think it is a little better, more rounded. But not that different than C5--over at the Kerbeck corner, they had a C6 and C5 with the rear facias adjacent, and it was plainly obvious that it's no radical departure.
I don't like the front, but it's less noticiable in pictures than in person. Still looks like it's smiling at me or something, I don't like that grill. I also like the head lights on the Callaway C12 much better than the C6 lights, if they had to go the fixed route.
C5's profile (side view) was always it's strong suite. Same with C6. Similar design, more angular. I really see what they mean by F-22 influence. I don't thing it's necessarily better than C5, just more sporty.
I did not like the experimental gun-metal wheels shown on the black car, but the stock C6 wheel is very, very nice. The best yet, except maybe the ZR1 5 spoke.
C6 interior
I hate the steering wheel. But I kept negative comments to myself in that tent, I'm sure they've heard it before. I also hate the driver's door--no handle to get out, you have to use this electonic switch. I couldn't get out at first!!!
The feel of the seat is better than C5--tighter, like C4. Leather is nicer than either C5 or C4, nice and couchy.
Interior materials--I was expecting to be wow'd, but I was not. I ran my fingers over the dash, seats, shifter, console, driver center. Nicer than plastic, but I would say equal to the feel of the C4 dash (mine is 1993) over the passenger side.
Shifter--nice looking. But I can't feel a short-throw difference between this and C5, as I could when C5 came out vs C4. Clutch is also VERY SOFT, not to my liking, but everybody's different.
Price
Harlan said Coupes are around 44 base and 'verts 52 base. There was not one 'vert at Carslile that I saw, and very few automatics, actually, just 2 that I saw (one at engr. tent, one at Kerbeck). Nevertheless, with options, Kerbeck wanted around 52k for the coupes. A definite price jump.
