Construction equipment width

[67HEAVEN]

Anyone know the width of:

1) the average tandem axle dump truck (including mirrors)?

2) the average backhoe for digging foundation trenches?

Thanks.

 

[DRTH VTR]

Anyone know the width of:

1) the average tandem axle dump truck (including mirrors)?

2) the average backhoe for digging foundation trenches?

Thanks.

Six inches wider than the space between the house and your biggest tree.

 

[67HEAVEN]

Six inches wider than the space between the house and your biggest tree.

You're a big help. otfl

 

[vett boy]

8 feet is the max legal width in the states. Mini excavators that we own are 6 feet and turn in their own radius. Hope it helps a little.

 

[67HEAVEN]

8 feet is the max legal width in the states. Mini excavators that we own are 6 feet and turn in their own radius. Hope it helps a little.

vett boy,

Yes, that helps, thanks. Does the 8 feet include the mirrors?

I need to run them through the two trees (marked with red) that are 9' 6" apart.

The garage will be built quite a ways back in the yard, but I don't want to remove any trees. I'll just transplant six of the cedar globes to make way for the winding driveway.

So that the driveway doesn't spoil the setting, I'm planning on using just two trails with grass in the middle (more grass than in the photo below), from the road to the garage. I'd prefer a dustless media rather than concrete or asphalt. That would help maintain the rustic feel.

Anyone know some products that compact well and are dustless?

 

[vett boy]

Normally they don't count the mirrors ,but in most cases they can fold in. At 60 mph don't worry if the mirrors fit or not. good luck.

 

[67HEAVEN]

Normally they don't count the mirrors ,but in most cases they can fold in. At 60 mph don't worry if the mirrors fit or not. good luck.

Holy crap. I hope they're not doing 60. otfl

 

[ROCKETBLOCK]

Asphalt compacts well! Bob, I'm glad to hear you aren't eliminating any trees.

 

[DRTH VTR]

Holy crap. I hope they're not doing 60. otfl

Only if the trucks have a 502 and side pipes.

 

[DDLS3]

Bob,

There is a crushed rock product called dense grade that isn't too dusty but that's about it

 

[67HEAVEN]

Dale,

Is it shown on this page?
http://www.bushelman.com/products/gravel.htm

 

[o2bnkc]

My Kenworth 10-wheeler would easily fit between that space. The best stuff to use for your road would be 3/4" base rock. Wet it down and compact it.

 

[G Winter]

Use concrete with coarse gravel and put color in it to look like gravel drive.

Glenn

 

[DDLS3]

Dale,

Is it shown on this page?
http://www.bushelman.com/products/gravel.htm

sure is.....it's the DGA material it packs very hard almost like concrete. after the rain has washed the crusher dust into the stone chips a couple times it doesnt even track on your tires anymore.

 

[MM-C5]

So that the driveway doesn't spoil the setting, I'm planning on using just two trails with grass in the middle (more grass than in the photo below), from the road to the garage. I'd prefer a dustless media rather than concrete or asphalt. That would help maintain the rustic feel.

Anyone know some products that compact well and are dustless?

Bob, take a look at Typar for your roadbed underlayment. This stuff was developed for use in timber roads and railroad beds in the Tundra. I've had quite a bit of success using it in commercial parking lots to keep either asphalt or concrete from breaking up due to heavy use and / or inclimate weather cycles.

You are just building a simple drive, but how you prepare your base will be critical to how well your little road holds up.

Tom

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[XLR8]

Bob, take a look at Typar for your roadbed underlayment. This stuff was developed for use in timber roads and railroad beds in the Tundra. I've had quite a bit of success using it in commercial parking lots to keep either asphalt or concrete from breaking up due to heavy use and / or inclimate weather cycles.

You are just building a simple drive, but how you prepare your base will be critical to how well your little road holds up.

Tom

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Thanks for posting the links guys... I'm going to add more driveway in the hopefully not too distant future and this may come in handy.

Jane Ann

 

[67HEAVEN]

Thanks, Tom.

What I'm looking for is a granular, somewhat loose appearance. I couldn't tell from that link if Typar is a solid surface. Are you suggesting it as an underlayment for the stuff Dale mentioned? The traditional concrete or asphalt would not do, but a tightly-packed (dustless) stone/sand mix, like Dale suggested, seems to be the answer.

Like I said, I want two tracks with grass between, winding its way back to the new garage. I want it to look like a trail through the trees rather than a driveway.

 

[Patrick]

So that the driveway doesn't spoil the setting, I'm planning on using just two trails with grass in the middle (more grass than in the photo below), from the road to the garage. I'd prefer a dustless media rather than concrete or asphalt. That would help maintain the rustic feel.

Anyone know some products that compact well and are dustless?

Try pea gravel. It's composed of larger individual pebbles than crusher fines, which makes it more dense, and less prone to dust. (Although, if you want a true "dustless" surface, you're probably looking at concrete.)

-Patrick

 

[Pseudomind]

Plenty of room for a DH8 to get through

D-Handle shovel, eight-inch blade, air-cooled, shoulder operated. :L


Other then this I have idea what would work for you, why don't you see if you can find a place nearby which appears to have what you are looking for, and ask them what they used. City parks, marina access roads, country access roads etc. but, I do not see it working what it is you wish to do, unless you put it down and never drive on it.

My reason for stating this is you really would not have any foundation so the ruts or wheel trails will squish down spreading out towards the center when driven over. I would suggest to lay a complete drive out of gravel or whatever you use, and then come back and remove about one inch down the center and sodding that in with grass. That way when driven over the wheel trails will not tend to squish towards the center. It would probably be easier and cheaper to do it this way as trying to do just trails.

Just my $.0.02

 

[MM-C5]

Thanks, Tom.

What I'm looking for is a granular, somewhat loose appearance. I couldn't tell from that link if Typar is a solid surface. Are you suggesting it as an underlayment for the stuff Dale mentioned? The traditional concrete or asphalt would not do, but a tightly-packed (dustless) stone/sand mix, like Dale suggested, seems to be the answer.

Like I said, I want two tracks with grass between, winding its way back to the new garage. I want it to look like a trail through the trees rather than a driveway.

Bob, Typar is a fabric underlayment that acts as the base for any gravel or other finish material.

It is like a blanket and it works on the principle of evenly spreading the load. Instead of depressing into a rut like would happen with a gravel, dirt, or thin asphalt road, the the weight of the road materials are evenly disbursed so you do not get the ruts. The other feature is that the road becomes more flexible to freeze / thaw cycles.

Asphalt alone will rut and break up from both your weather cycles and shear vehicle weight. Concrete needs to be a minimum of 4” thick and have rebar imbedded within to keep it from breaking. As you said, neither of these give look you want anyway.

Another method I’ve used to keep the “green” look is to use create a roadbed of concrete blocks then fill the cores with dirt. You can seed the cores, get a green look, but still have the strength of the concrete block as the road surface. Again, do this over the Typar fabric, followed by a layer of sand or P-gravel. The dirt you excavate for the block could be used to backfill the cores.

The home I grew up in had a regular driveway in front but Dad constructed a drive that wrapped around the house and went back to the barn. He used a product called Pit-Run Gravel which amounted to a mixture of various size gravel rock and clay.

We never had a problem with it except for some rutting that would have been eliminated had Typar existed at the time.

The only problem with it for your use is that it looks like a gravel road so don't expect the grass effect.

It may cost more, but for the look you want, I’d check out the block / Typar combination.

Hope this gives you something to ponder.

T