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[67HEAVEN]

Thanks John,

Did you heat the floor in your garage? I think I remember reading that awhile back.

Do you have a brand name for the high-density closed-cell foam sheets with heavy foil?

 

[67HEAVEN]

.........lay a 10-mil poly (Visqueen) moisture barrier down first,

John,

Is this the poly product?
http://www.visqueenbuilding.co.uk/product_detail.asp?id=106&sid=156

 

[67HEAVEN]

Let's discuss size. :gap

My current garage is 20' x 20' (400 sq.ft.), as that is all my lot would allow. My next one will likely be between 1,440 and 1,500 sq. feet.

You guys with multiple car "working" garages.........which do you think I would find more useful?

1. 50'w x 30'd (overhead doors across the 50' width)

2. 40'w x 36'd (overhead doors across the 40' width)

So, would you go wider or deeper?

 

[MM-C5]

So, would you go wider or deeper?

Tell me you're kidding! otfl otfl

 

[G Winter]

How wide do you want your stalls? I would say you want 12 to 14 ft per stall.
so three stalls as much as 42 ft. 12 ft puts cars pretty close. For depth is the average car 16 ft long ?

Glenn

 

[JohnZ]

Let's discuss size. :gap

My current garage is 20' x 20' (400 sq.ft.), as that is all my lot would allow. My next one will likely be between 1,440 and 1,500 sq. feet.

You guys with multiple car "working" garages.........which do you think I would find more useful?

1. 50'w x 30'd (overhead doors across the 50' width)

2. 40'w x 36'd (overhead doors across the 40' width)

So, would you go wider or deeper?

I went 44' deep with mine - provides plenty of room for two cars plus plenty of room for the "step" at the front (60" deep, not the usual 30") with workbenches on it. Also went 58' wide, for two 18' doors and a service door.

Didn't heat the floor - I have a ceiling-hung Reznor power-vented gas forced-air unit heater with electronic ignition (no pilot flame); it's 125,000 BTU, which turned out to be over-sized for my 2500 sq. ft. due to super-insulating the garage (R-28 walls, 2x6-framed, R-58 ceiling, insulated doors, and insulation under the slab).

Yup, Visqueen is the right stuff; don't recall the trade name for the foil-faced foam sheets, but any building center should have it - was about $8.00 a sheet six years ago.

I have a couple of detailed construction spec sheets (Word documents) for the garage I can send you if you like, although the entire garage and its detailed specs and photos are in the "Spectacular Garages" article in the August, 2006 issue of "Corvette Fever".

 

[67HEAVEN]

Thanks, John and Glenn.

A 2,500 square foot garage is a no, no for me. #1. Too expensive for my bank account. #2. I like sleeping in the house, not the dog house.

Around 1,500 is plenty for someone of my advanced years. :gap

John, please send me those Word files. I think you have my email address. If not, PM me and I'll get it to you. Thanks.

Glenn, I don't plan on having too many projects ongoing at one time, so open doors on a project car will likely apply to only one (maybe two) bays at a time. Part of this garage will be for storing tools and equipment for another hobby I'm turning into a money-maker, but that's another thread.

 

[G Winter]

for someone of my advanced years. :gap

otflotfl Kids nowdays.



Glenn

 

[67HEAVEN]

I went to the new property today to lay out a rough idea of the garage, testing two different sizes.

At this point, I think the 40' x 36' wins out. As for the tree that Larry (IH2lose) mentioned earlier, I think he's right. It'll have to go. I'll never back the Tahoe and the 24' trailer between those two specific trees. With the fenders, the trailer is at least 9' wide and the trees are only 9'6' apart. :eek

It's an Eastern White Pine -- 32" circumference and approximately 55'-60' tall. There are so many trees on the property that losing one isn't too bad. And, I'll plant five new ones as make-up.

Anyone ever drop a tall pine surrounded closely by other trees? :confused

I stopped into town hall to pick up a copy of the building code sections that apply to garages and tree removal. I'll need town permission to cut down the tree. By the way, my new town is known as having maintained the most historically-correct downtown in the entire Province of Ontario (which as all you gun-slingers know is larger than the state of Texas ).

After visiting town hall, I parked downtown (beautiful sunny afternoon) and took a seat across the road in a sidewalk café. I got today's jollies watching the locals get used to seeing Heaven on Main Street. There's a new gun in town.

 

[Viet Nam Vett]

I got today's jollies watching the locals get used to seeing Heaven on Main Street. There's a new gun in town.

Of all the pictures of Heaven you've posted... That's one I would have really liked to see. I can just picture the old folks gauking at Heaven peeking in the window trying to figure out what new German Import it is...

 

[67HEAVEN]

Some jurisdictions allow you to average building height over all four elevations-
-Patrick

Patrick,

During my visit to town hall today, I talked to a senior official in the Building Department about the issue of "average building height". This is the guy who told me 13.1 feet during a phone conversation. He professed to being vague on what it really meant and said for the purposes of him issuing a building permit, he would just consider the height at the mid-point between the ridge and the gutters. :confused

Small towns. otfl

The by-law section reads, "The height of all accessory buildings shall not exceed 5.0 metres. Height of building shall mean the vertical distance, measured between the finished grade at the front of the building, and:

a) not applicable.
b) not applicable.
c) in the case of a hip or gambrel roof, the average height between the eaves and ridge."

On the phone he told me 13.1 feet. A conversion of 5 metres results in 16.40 feet. I just gained over 3 feet.

 

[Patrick]

Patrick,

During my visit to town hall today, I talked to a senior official in the Building Department about the issue of "average building height". This is the guy who told me 13.1 feet during a phone conversation. He professed to being vague on what it really meant and said for the purposes of him issuing a building permit, he would just consider the height at the mid-point between the ridge and the gutters. :confused

Small towns. otfl

The by-law section reads, "The height of all accessory buildings shall not exceed 5.0 metres. Height of building shall mean the vertical distance, measured between the finished grade at the front of the building, and:

a) not applicable.
b) not applicable.
c) in the case of a hip or gambrel roof, the average height between the eaves and ridge."

On the phone he told me 13.1 feet. A conversion of 5 metres results in 16.40 feet. I just gained over 3 feet.

Congratulations, 67!

But I guess I'd have to get used to the flatlander logic over there. With the natural terrain we have in some places here in Colorado, the change in grade over a site can result in difference that amounts to a full story in height when you average all four elevations.

-Patrick

 

[67HEAVEN]

During the same visit with the town building official, we got to discussing my intention of using brick on the garage, and the issue of footings, foundation, etc.

He suggested a less-expensive solution would involve an engineered slab floor, rather than digging down below the frost line. The slab would include an outside perimeter of much thicker concrete (with rebar) that would be engineered to accommodate a brick face. I have no experience with this method as I used a backhoe to go down over 4 feet and poured footings, followed by concrete block foundation for my current garage.

Thoughts on the use of an engineered slab?

 

[Patrick]

I believe those are also known as "post-tension" slabs. They work well and are quite stable. They preclude the ability to put in a basement, but as this is a garage, that's probably no biggie.

The downside to them, and why they are really only used by the cheapie residential homebuilders around here, is that require an almost completely flat site to work. You can't have a variation of more than about a foot to 18 inches from end to end.

-Patrick

 

[67HEAVEN]

The downside to them, and why they are really only used by the cheapie residential homebuilders around here, is that require an almost completely flat site to work. You can't have a variation of more than about a foot to 18 inches from end to end.

-Patrick

Excellent information, Patrick. I'm thinking the variance from west to east is at least 18 inches, maybe 24.

Looks like footings for me.

 

[Rowdy1]

Cutting Down A Tree?

To back up?:L otfl You guys kill me. Dropping a tree in the surroundings of another tree? Yeah, and..........What's the problem? I have the saws, I can run anytihng with tires or tracks, my question to you now is...........when?

 

[67HEAVEN]

YIKES!

It's spring time in The Great White North.

That's where my new driveway was supposed to go across (right to left) :eek

 

[67HEAVEN]

Luckily, it's emptying out at the other end of the property, but it's flowing faster every day as the farmer's field melts. :eek

 

[67HEAVEN]

I'm thinking about getting out my fishing rod. otfl

 

[67HEAVEN]

Like I said about the first photo, I was planning on using grassy-pavers as a driveway to the garage there.

Time to do some research on whether the spring flow will undermine the driveway base. I may have to build a bridge to get HEAVEN out each Spring. :W

See the branch floating downstream? ;help The garage would be up on the snow (upper right) in this photo.

Life is just like a box of chocolates.