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Paul I couldn't agree more ~ so what dates work for you to meet in Las Vegas
Bud
Bud
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If you guys can make it before Jan 15th or so I'll drive Steve's car and keep the miles down on mine!!Paul I couldn't agree more ~ so what dates work for you to meet in Las Vegas
Bud
Hey ,i'm keepin' my eye on you fellaIf you guys can make it before Jan 15th or so I'll drive Steve's car and keep the miles down on mine!!
Rob, very well written. I concur with your opinions 100%.
Time for our country to take back the manufacturing and the innovation we have allowed to leave.
Time to tell the UAW they will have to start playing by the Big 3's rules, not theirs!
WHILE ALL THIS IS GOING ON, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE THE ?
Let me start by saying I am not a UAW supporter, however I wil say all the bailouts in the world won't help if people don't buy their products. American cars are as good or better than imports! BUT even if they aren't "YOU ARE BUYING MORE THAN A CAR. YOU ARE BUYING A LIFESTYLE" You can pay for the japanese economy to boom or your own. The thing about the UAW is they took a lot of money out of the corporation and put it into the economy by SPENDING it in bussineses like mine all over the country. I took that money and spent it in businesess like yours! It is time for americans to stop being so damn "me" oriented and do what's right for the country.Because if your neighbor isn't thriving neither will you for long. We are all interconnected. Finally, I watched the senate hearings with the big 3 bosses-what an outrage! These arrogant SOBs telling the CEOs the missmanaged their companies money now they what taxpayers to bail them out. They should have straightened their houses out long ago. WHAT CRAP! these jokers have grotesquely mismanaged the business of our country with no sign of fixing their house. Whenever they need more money they get a "taxpayer bailout" by raising taxes. Worse yet they are now borrowing money from our grand kids. This is revolting. And for them to call the car compnies out. OUTRAGEOUS. We NEED to wake up folks! Buy AMERICAN! and lets vote these jerks out of office and get some decent people in there before it's to late.Rob, very well written. I concur with your opinions 100%.
Time for our country to take back the manufacturing and the innovation we have allowed to leave.
Time to tell the UAW they will have to start playing by the Big 3's rules, not theirs!
WHILE ALL THIS IS GOING ON, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE THE ?
I THINK I FOUND THE PROBLEM
Aren't those Oranges??Yikes!
It would take a full-time staff of Mandarins just to look up the answer to any question that came up. :eyerole
I would like to be really optimistic, but the facts don't lend themselves to that perspective. The Dow Jones ended the worst year since the great depression at around 8700 and we are as close to a full depression as we've ever been. Unless Detriot and the UAW decide that "They" are going to tackle the real Economic situation "NOW", then come March 30, we're going to be closed, Period! the Big 3 don't hold the 70% they once did, they hold 19% and dropping. So far GM has failed over and over at developing more market attractive models then ever. 'Can you really compare a Nissin Sentra with a Chevy Aveo ? beyond that we have the Colbalt, and frankly folks ain't breaking down the doors to get one of these either. I'm not a Union basher, and at this point I really don't know what their game plan is, but I can sum up what should be in their immediate newsletter, New Job Training center to Open soon ! Ford seems to be in almost OK position, GM as of Monday had a 0 balance in their operations bank account, save for the billions that the government deposited last night. But the senior management at GM needs to be replaced. I really don't think any long term plans exist. As is the case with Chrysler, their long range plans hold very little in a competitive model lineup. And whoever runs GM marketing and advertising needs to be fire at once. The reality is that the big 3 automakers are going to need about 1/3 + less workers that at present. And no matter how rosey the water is scented, the taste is bitter. GM needs Chevrolet, Cadillac and Buick. GMAC is a viable company and should be invested in, Chevy needs a total revamp, Hummer, How did this vehicle make it through "concept initiation"? what market is it directed at? all it's models are on Consumer reports WORSE MADE list, Jeep rounds out the list? Combine Pontiac models with Chevy. Decide if Buick is worth reshaping, I think perhaps it is, (But my opinion doesn't matter). What is most troubling to me is that 1. the US government Does Not want to get into the auto building industry. 2. I belive Mr. Gettlefinger would be quite happy to go home on April 1st and have a beer or cup of coffee and say "Well I did my best for the retired members, but of course we all laid off since the company is in bank receivership. and 3. I don't think anybody involved understands that WE ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY WE HAVE! we are barrowing money that your children and their children are going to have to pay back. 700 billion is a lot , lot of money. I want to see the American auto industry flourish, but it can only do this at a much smaller industry. The whole mindset of the peole involved needs to change, because come March 30th, and there's not a really, really conservative long range plan on the table, the Government is going to get involved in New Job training with our infrastructure and existing industries in mind. because we don't have the money to spend it both ways. I wish things were better, but their not and the sooner we realize that the faster we are going to prepare for the future. There is no such thing as a job guarranty anymore in any industry. I'm sorry if I disturbed anyone holiday, but we have to think about what is really important in life, like taking care of the children, their education and the elderly. Imagine what would happen come March if the Social Security Administration was in competition for the same dollars that Detriot is begging for, because that's not really that far off the mark! GM, Ford and Chrysler = self;help That Mr Wagoner and Mr. Gettlefinger is the future. The pathway to hell is paved with good intentions.