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joe1975

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1975 Orange L-82 4 Sp.
If I was running the wrong springs on my distributor would I have a detonation problem Higher octane fuel and octane booster helped a little but wide open throttle has some pinging to it timing is set at 12 deg L-82 with unknow cam elderbrock intake elder. heads and a holley carb and headers any suggestions or advice
 
Have you verified the springs & weights will articulate freely ... not hanging up? Same for vac can ... sure it don't have a hole in diaphragm, leak in line, is pickup articulating?

If the springs are too light (too little tension) then it can advance too far, too soon with detonation a possible symptom.
JACK:gap
 
Joe,


Do you mean by detonation sound blast out the tail pipe? Or is it like having a wire on the wrong cylinder? I guess that these two situations are too close to be distinguishable, but I guess I am trying to understand if it's detonation or backfire out of the carburator.

If you have an initial of 12 deg BTDC, then if the weights are hanging up, then you should not be able to see a whole lot of the timing advancing above idle with a timing light. Does the detonation reduces if you set an initial of 15 or even 17 deg BTDC? By the way, one has to check the weight's movement carefully. It may seem like they're not hanging-up on anything, but it usually does hang-up. Like the plastic buttons they brush against. One weight post could be slightly bent as well.

The pinging sound you hearing reminds me of the power tuning for a vacume advance. You give it a little more until it pings, and then one reduces the rate at which the spring in the vacume cannister moves (counterclockwise, I believe). However, this is possible on an adjustable cannister or like Jack says, a pin hole in the diaphragm. So your vacume advance is momentarily too much (once the carb is WOT, the effect of vacume-operated advance mechanism is almost entirely eliminated).
 
If it is detonation then I think it must be due to premature ignition, that is, too much advance. Perhaps you need to replace the springs with ones of higher tension.


Just a thought.
'73
 
Joe, do a search of past threads for mechanical advance and timing settings. JOHNZ did an excellent thread on how to set the timing using a dial-back timing light. it worked for me with no pinging at all..


Robin
 
Thanks again, The factory specs show 12 deg. now the cam change and all I'm sure has a bearing on this , and I'm having no luck with the previous owner so I guess I'm gonna gain alot of experince, and probally lose a lot of hair
 
Vettehead Mikey said:
12 degrees sounds like too much initial advance to me. Try 8 degrees and see what happens. :beer
The initial advance is not as important as the total advance - your car never detonates at an idle.

I'm running 38 degrees of total advance at 3500 rpm, which resulted in 18 degrees of advance at idle. I have no detonation, the car starts easily, and there is no hesitation when I step on the gas.


Mike
 
Mike, is your motor stock? i am running my set-up at 32 deg , so you have me wondering if i can go more.


robin
 
I'm running 36 deg @ 3500rpm with 15 deg advance no problem starting and no pinging or hesitation. This is a stock 327/300.
 

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