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Is the Corvette Still Relevant?

Posted: 8:40 PM Nov 18, 2008
Last Updated: 9:36 PM Nov 18, 2008
Reporter: Ryan Dearbone
Email Address: ryan.dearbone@wbko.com

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The Corvette has been a staple of South Central Kentucky since the assembly plant came to our area in 1981.

But is it still a "car of the future"... or has it become a thing of the past?

This year, General Motors released four different types of the 2009 Corvette for customers to buy.

Yet with softer sales from its 2008 models and talk about its "fuel in-efficiency" has the country's "most famous sports car" lost its luster and marketability?

"The Corvette remains relevant cause its the icon of the automobile industry... period," says 2164 Local United Auto Workers president Eldon Renaud.

"When you look at it, its still the premier sports car in the United States, the best sports car for the value. We're leading in fuel economy and quality with this vehicle and its still very relevant," says Bowling Green Assembly Plant manager, Paul Graham.

Graham believes the Corvette is still performing as well as can be expected in the current economy.

"Right now when you look at our market share, our market share in Corvette is actually up 2% this year, in the luxury performance segment which we're in," Graham notes.

Although the Corvette has seen a small rise in its market share, the sports car has also seen a 13% drop in sales over the last year.

Renaud says if people were able to use equity from their second mortgages to purchase cars, that might change.

Fuel efficiency knocks against the Corvette aren't a concern of Graham's because he says it can hold court with anything on the market.

"I can tell you from talking to some of our Corvette enthusiasts that drive back to Bowling Green and the museum, we've had people that can regularly get 30 miles a gallon with the corvette on the freeway," Graham explains.

So by continuing the Corvette, Graham says they are actually expanding their opportunity to work on advanced technologies such as engine advancements and fuel-efficiency.

Renaud feels there is something else that will keep the Corvette important to the car industry many years from now... and thats its heritage.

"People have seen the car since it was first made. They realized as a child 'I'd like to have that car" and they strive and they save. That the American dream," Graham tells WBKO.

Graham says the current ZR1 model corvette is selling well despite reduction in sales from its base models.

He also says so far, there has been no discussions to move either the Corvette or Cadillac XLR out of town.

Graham says they will take whatever steps they have to deal with Congress' decision, whether it's for or against them.

However, right now their main focus is getting the word out and making their voices heard.
 
That is absolutely true!!....The Corvette is THE American Dream...period!!!!
 
Since the liberals in Congress want to make sure everyone has the American Dream, whether they work hard to get it or have it given to them by Government--does this mean that those who can't or won't earn a Corvette will have one given to them?

Ok. I'm becoming a liberal.

Nancy Pelosi...make mine a blue ZR1.
 
Because of the Corvette's production numbers, the model is barely relevent. Now that the auto industry is tanking, the Corvette is still...barely relevent.


Question is, has GM produced enough 2009MY Corvettes to satisfy demand for all 2010MY?
 
Without a doubt, the corvette is relevant. It still serves as the Chevrolet flagship, and it's MPG isn't bad, (all things considered) But more important is the impact of abandoning the corvette by GM would further depict the company in a ever darkening financial cloud, something that should be advoided at all cost. If people 'think' GM is dead, then the entire image of the automaker is in trouble. Plus the Corvette is the most inexpensive marketing tool avalible to General Motors in todays marketplace. Not to mention, it still serves as the most important springboard for 'new' engine and driveline technology in use today. Plus the terrible image that would be left behind should the Corvette disappear in the automotive marketplace.

The marketplace for cars like the Corvette, Porsche, Audi and many others are not being so adversely affected that they are considering ceasing production. The Corvette remains pound for pound, an very inexpensive technology and marketing tool for the srinking, but still current model lineup for GM. And if you consider how much it costs to produce the corvette, it's money well spent. Long Live the corvette !
 
I absolutely agree that the Corvette is relevant. As relevant as the NSX, S2000, Lotus Exige, Lambo Gallardo, etc.

These are all niche cars serving a particular clientele. My guess is that once GM comes out of brankruptcy and they are free of the debt and can price product to make real money, the price of the Corvette will rise beyond what the average guy can afford. Why? Because (if we assume for a minute that they have new idiots running the new GM as opposed to the old idiots) good pricing strategy will dictate that you charge what the market will bear and you balance sales with the lowest manufacturing cost that you can beat out of the cinder blocks.

Rolex went through the same thing in the 90's. They ramped up production to the point where EVERYBODY could afford one but the excess inventory put pressure on the price, forcing retailers to discount Rolexes (and making "real" older Rolex prices go through the roof). They wised up, dropped production volume and jacked up the price overnight. Worked perfectly.

You don't see Rolexes for sale on HSN or QVC do you? But maybe you'll see Lisa Whatshername hosting a Saturday Night Special for Chevrolet (with the Easy Pay Plan). Fritz Henderson on QVC? I think I have to lie down 'till that one passes.

Maybe they take some of those young and perky GM engineers from the TV ads and have them shill cars real time. That's REALLY earning your money

With the pressure on dealers because of the impending liquidation, we finally may be able to buy GM products the way everything else (except guns and meds) is sold...direct to the consumer. Nah, prices won't go down, GM will just absorb the middleman's profit. The little guy ALWAYS gets screwed.

It's a good thing that India's Tata Motors has so much debt. They would have been in a position to buy national distribution dirt cheap overnight and that would have jacked our unemployment rate even higher. I hope that there's enough public sentiment against the PRC that we slow down their economic expansion plans as well.

A Corvette badged with "Made in China" :finger
 
Gas Hogs!!

One of the things that drives me nuts is that the damned 6 speed gets such great gas mileage.

But .... you constantly have to defend owning a car that gets 30+ on the highway.

GM could do a lot better stressing that point to the general public.

Yeah, yeah, I know that it might ruin "the image" but on the other hand, what's to loose ...... and ...... those that matter (those that buy them), wouldn't give a hoot; they know what the car can do.

My freakin "PC" Volvo only gets 23 to 24 on the highway.

GM should have been shouting from the rooftops long ago that their top gun was lean and green .... and fast!
 
One of the things that drives me nuts is that the damned 6 speed gets such great gas mileage.

But .... you constantly have to defend owning a car that gets 30+ on the highway.

GM could do a lot better stressing that point to the general public.

Yeah, yeah, I know that it might ruin "the image" but on the other hand, what's to loose ...... and ...... those that matter (those that buy them), wouldn't give a hoot; they know what the car can do.

My freakin "PC" Volvo only gets 23 to 24 on the highway.

GM should have been shouting from the rooftops long ago that their top gun was lean and green .... and fast!


Your right about the marketing pitch. My 2003 A4 gets a consistant 29.7 to 31.5 when I'm out doing sixty down the PA turnpike ? I've even had reading of 33.1 MPG if I'm a little lighter on the gas pedal !
 
One of the things that drives me nuts is that the damned 6 speed gets such great gas mileage.

But .... you constantly have to defend owning a car that gets 30+ on the highway.

GM could do a lot better stressing that point to the general public.

Yeah, yeah, I know that it might ruin "the image" but on the other hand, what's to loose ...... and ...... those that matter (those that buy them), wouldn't give a hoot; they know what the car can do.

My freakin "PC" Volvo only gets 23 to 24 on the highway.

GM should have been shouting from the rooftops long ago that their top gun was lean and green .... and fast!
I have to agree with you 100%. I've had to defend myself @ gas stations because I'm driving a car that gets poor gas mileage.;)


At least I don't have to deal with the people that tell me to "Buy American" next time...as they fill up their Honda Accords.;squint:
 
I'm older than most on the forum, and I don't remember any time the Vette has been really truly relevant since the rock and roll fifties. Relevance is not what the Vette is all about. I like the Vette because it's a joy in my life, and NOT as relevant and practical as everything else I have to worry about. The fact that it gets 28 mpg on the road is a bonus. My Silverado 6 cyl. is relevant - at least to me. So let's frame the Vette for what it is - hobby, lifestyle, escape or whatever. A car doesn't have to be relevant survive, but it does have to be great at what it does - like the Vette. The Vette is losing sales, but probably not market share. It's an industry downturn.
 
Gas milage ? on a vet, I don't think so

Gentlemen, what car are you driving anyway. I have a 2003 ZO6, that is lucky to get 21 miles per gallon. and I drive it highway most of the time> now if I do drive it like a little old lady.. I MIGHT get 25... I have 2008 ZO6 and I do get a little better gas milage. The C6 Z06 of mine gets around 23 MPG. On a 350 mile crusie to LA I averaged around 25.. which is still GREAT for a supercar, exotic or a IN YOUR FACE, I drive a new ZO6 and get better gas milage than any of those BMW's. But lets not stretch things OK.... 20+ miles per gallon on most C5's and C6's is GREAT for a car than goes over 180 and runs the 0 to 6 in under 4.... But lets be real here, I meet ONE guy whos told me he gets around 28 MPG but he drove it like a little old lady.. I would prefer those people that drive a vette like that ..should realy reconsider their purchase and buy a AVEO....
I don,t drive it in 6th gear all the time, I don,t immedinatly shift to 5th when I,m only going 40. I go through those 5 gears(screw 6th, unless I,m on the highway) to listen to the beautiful music it makes as it throttles through those gears... Gives me an erection when ever it rumbles through those 5 gears and I feel it in my ass... THATS WHY I BOUGHT A PAIR OF ZO6,S...
 
Relevant? probably! I am a little older and I appreciate my Y2K as art/machinery.
Mine is base/stock with the 3.15 rear. It is certainly fast enough for my budget. Off the line it is great - I dont need high top end. The 3.15 gets me about 23MPG mixed.Not too bad. I think the stock rear will get better road MPG.
I enjoy the rumble and just looking at it. It is your basic beast! Believe me I am very appreciative at this level.
Yeah there are faster ones but once you start that game there is no end. BTW no Vette is faster than radar!
I think that the GM marketing dept. should start to promote the lower end Vette. Most (non-Vette) people you talk to think that all Vettes cost $100K++. My neighbors think that I am a Millionaire. LOL. The existing marketing thought is to get everyone all excited about the high end ones and once in the showroom you will buy a Malibu. NOT.

To my mind this turns off so many potental buyers since they dont realize that the low end $$ really isn't too bad, and that great used ones can be had at a very competive price.
 
Relevant to what? Relevant to what the media, the government, social engineers think we should all be driving? This statement that I keep hearing about GM and other US auto makers not building the sorts of cars that people want is false. US auto makers DO make cars that people want but much of the car-buying public has a long-held bias (formerly, but no longer justified) against American brands. It's gotten down to psychology rather than critical thinking.

Media types would have us all driving electric cars or minimalist Smart cars while they drive BMWs. To them, and therefore, to people influenced by them, Corvettes represent an IMAGE of wretched excess and wasted energy as they entertain the fantasy that global warming is a huge man-made problem. Relevant? Our Corvettes are relevant TO US. Do you really care what some comedian or TV talk show guy or network news person thinks is socially relevant?

My C5/Z06 spends as much time at Willow Springs as it does transporting me places and it's quite relevant for me, thank you. In fact, it's that most value for the money and energy expended that I can imagine. Oh, and it provides me with great satisfaction to drive... or even to just look at.

Rod Bean
 
Gentlemen, what car are you driving anyway. I have a 2003 ZO6, that is lucky to get 21 miles per gallon. and I drive it highway most of the time> now if I do drive it like a little old lady.. I MIGHT get 25... I have 2008 ZO6 and I do get a little better gas milage. The C6 Z06 of mine gets around 23 MPG. On a 350 mile crusie to LA I averaged around 25.. which is still GREAT for a supercar, exotic or a IN YOUR FACE, I drive a new ZO6 and get better gas milage than any of those BMW's. But lets not stretch things OK.... 20+ miles per gallon on most C5's and C6's is GREAT for a car than goes over 180 and runs the 0 to 6 in under 4.... But lets be real here, I meet ONE guy whos told me he gets around 28 MPG but he drove it like a little old lady.. I would prefer those people that drive a vette like that ..should realy reconsider their purchase and buy a AVEO....
I don,t drive it in 6th gear all the time, I don,t immedinatly shift to 5th when I,m only going 40. I go through those 5 gears(screw 6th, unless I,m on the highway) to listen to the beautiful music it makes as it throttles through those gears... Gives me an erection when ever it rumbles through those 5 gears and I feel it in my ass... THATS WHY I BOUGHT A PAIR OF ZO6,S...

You must have some low gearing that causes the low MPG. I have a stock 97 coupe and a stock 08 convert that both get 27 to 30 MPG depending on the time of year and the stuff California has the gas companies put into the gas for EPA(?) purposes.

Since I bought that C5 in 97 I have loved being able to respond to those who usually do not know what they are talking about, by saying "oh no, it is not a gas hog. It gets at least 27 MPG on the highway. What does your Mercedes get?"
 
You must have some low gearing that causes the low MPG. I have a stock 97 coupe and a stock 08 convert that both get 27 to 30 MPG depending on the time of year and the stuff California has the gas companies put into the gas for EPA(?) purposes.

Since I bought that C5 in 97 I have loved being able to respond to those who usually do not know what they are talking about, by saying "oh no, it is not a gas hog. It gets at least 27 MPG on the highway. What does your Mercedes get?"

I bought Both of the Z06's, new, not sure what the gearing is. But the 2003 ZO6 does have 405HP (according to GM the 03 is closer to 440HP)
and the 08 Z06 is 505HP and gas milage is LOWER according to the experts than the base coupe's and rag tops....
 
Just dug out the window stickers on both cars... the 2003 Z06 is;; 19 city & 28 highway..never happened ! I usually do 12 city and 24 highway, maybe due to the FACT that GM upped the HP by 25 or 30 for the 50th .(evaluation of all LS6 that were tested for 2003 showed a Dyno of 25 to 35Hp higher than previous LS6,s)
the 2008 Z06 is 15 city and 24 highway.
 
With The Govt. Now So Heavily Into GM ...

I dont expect there will be a C7.

If there is, it will be a completely redesigned Fiero type job.

Teenage girls...will love it.
 

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