I just got my Lingenfelter mini tubs and Kenisis wheels and wanted to lower my car. so bought the lowering bolts for the rear and unscrewed the front adjusters all of the way up. I'll tell you this is not what it seems. I have had my car up and down on the jacks fifty times to teak it. First it's too low in the rear then not low enough in the front. Finally got it I think. Be prepared to put in some butt on the floor time to get it exactly right. I'll try to post some pics when I figure out exactly how to get them to show up here.