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Hi,

I fell in love with early 70's vettes over a decade ago, and the time is near when I could (?) buy one... I'm looking for a nice car to drive, don't care about matching #'s or originality.

Most of the cars within my price range (<10K) need a paint job. So I asked around what a paint job costs and got answers ranging from $500-$5,000-$15,000-$50,000. That's quite a range.... :eyerole

So here are my questions to you guys:

- Anybody able to narrow that range down, assuming I'm not looking for a show car and I can fix cracks etc myself?

- Anybody painted their vette lately? What did it cost?

- Am I better of waiting a couple of years, save some more money and get a car that is in better shape?

- Anyone selling a nice car for little $$? :D

Thanks,

Matthijs
 
If you prep the car, expect to pay $2,000 for a good paint job.
 
Mathijs, if you wait till you can afford the whole package,you may never get a Vette. allways seems something (or someone) has other uses for our money.
imho, if your going for a daily driver and can do your own prep work many Maacos do a good job of painting. look at other cars see what kind of quality work they do.many may laff at this idea. but i've had a few cars and many motorcycles painted this way.


Robin
 
Hey Matt, take off the emblems, strip the old paint, remove taillights and any other components your don't want painted over, and take it to a reputable painter and you should get a real decent paint job for $2000-$4000. Stripping the old paint isn't that difficult, just real messy. The cost of the paint job will vary depending on the quality you want but shouldn't exceed the above estimate. Let us know how you make out getting estimates.
Paul
 
Matt,

Don't be fooled.

Getting 25 year old paint and that stupid decal stripping off your Vette will take you weeks of hard labor. It's worth it doing it yourself as you will appreciate the final product that much more.

I have been prepping my 78 for 2 years now.
 
Roy said:
Matt,

Don't be fooled.

Getting 25 year old paint and that stupid decal stripping off your Vette will take you weeks of hard labor. It's worth it doing it yourself as you will appreciate the final product that much more.

I have been prepping my 78 for 2 years now.
Roy, what are you using to strip the paint? Three of us stripped a 73 Corvette in one afternoon using a commercial stripper (careful not to get one that damages the gel coat) and we did a 79 Corvette in about six hours. A good stripper, plastic scrapers, lots of newspapers around the car, and a few cold beers and the job is not that difficult. Just very, very messy. The decals come off with the paint. If you are sandpapering it off by hand, forget it.
Paul
 
I will ask this dumb question now instead of later cause the summer looks like the time the new hood, tranny, and paint will be coming on:

Its fiberglass underneath, right? So how can you keep from damaging it?

The more that goes wrong the more I love her so i dont want to have to buy a new front end because I was trying to save that amount in cost trying to strip it myself.
 
These guys said it all,a paint job will range anywhere from 2k to 9k.If you just want to drive it ,pull the bumpers ,emblems and lenses ,strip it ,prime it and get a 2k paint job.BUT,remember what your intentions were at the begginning of the project.Alot of people do this and then when its done wonder why its not as slick as other cars or why there is a wave here and there.I dont do 2k paint jobs anymore because of this .Also because of this it is hard to find someone who will do it for 2k but we are living in hard times so someone will do it.
 
get one that needs paint that way no-one had recently hidden stress cracks.drive it like it is until you can see your way clear to paint it.
I bought my 75 almost 1 1/2 years ago now,i will be painting it this week or so but it is not for the faint at heart,unless you can really do body work,don't touch it.with a good shine a 1/16" deep crater left by a novice will look like it was hit with a clay shovel.mike
 
Most of the prep work for paint that I have done on the Vette has been wet sanding by hand using 180 to 600 grit paper. I have not been efficient in my use of time and materials on this project and I would recommend any of the alternatives mentioned on this forum.

The body is basically down to the fiberglass and where some paint remains it has been carefully feathered in. I removed all the emblems, rocker panel covers, fuel tank cap, trim pieces, turn signals, headlight wrap arounds. Thoses damn plastic bumpers are a pain in the butt to prep but eventually they look pretty good.

Speaking of bumpers ... does anyone know an easy way to remove the "Corvette" nameplate from the rear bumper on a 1978 without removing the fuel tank?
 
The painting part is the easy part. The difference in the price is the body prep.

The best way is to make sure all of the old paint is off. Whether you use stripper or bead blast is up to you and your wallet. Decent paint jobs cost about 4000. Unless you want something special. Price around and then look at some of the cars that they have done. That will give you an idea of their quality.
 
I have heard that a lot of shops won't/can't paint a vet because its fiberglass. Is this true, or is it just more of a headache that they try to avoid it?
 
Just like anything else, there's good guys and others. If a shop doesn't seem to show interest, chances are that they'll do a poor job. Try visiting some shops, you should get a feel if the guy's interested by how much time he spends with you. Also ask them if they have previous vette owners that they've done work for. Usually they'll have pictures. Some guys like doing Vettes. Be patient. Go to car shows/cruises, if you see a car that looks good, ask the owner who painted his car.
 
One way to find a good shop is to join the local Corvette club, they will be a good source of info. You might even find a club member that paints cars who knows.
 
What? My friend who works at a paint place said he could paint my car and fix all the spider vains for under 1000, with a 2 tone paint and clear coat.
 
Remember usage vs. cost vs. perfectionism vs. bang for the buck

If you drive your car a lot, especially at speed, unless you put on one of those assinine bras, you will nuke the paint job on the "nose cone" within a few years - really regardless of how little or much you pay.

A decent, mid-high level paint job is in the mid thousands and looks fantastic. 100 miles of gravelly road or dirty high way and the front and it is already damaged.

To me, this always made this the province of show cars and people with staggering amounts of money.

Four thousand buck buys you a Gear Vendors Overdrive and new modified suspension, installed. That gives your car, all else being equal, the same performance capabilities of a new vette of ten years later, or, if if it's one of the early big blocks with monster horse power, the same as one of today.

Alternately, $4K gets you a great crate SB, easily in the 100K mile rebuild range, yielding 375 hp. Going through a local rebuilder with a solid reputation, a couple of thousand over that gets you a mill of 100+ more hp with an enormous red line.

Guy, when I bought mine it needed a paint job a little. After the first 6 months on section of the hood bubbled. I stopped buying the touch up paint in the little bottles and tried to find one with a little brush on a five gallon bucket... :) Despite that, the car still gets gawked at by an almost uncomfortable number of people.

The car had been painted two years before I bought it for under $500 and other than that one defect, looked fine except for the standard road trash abrasions. It never had the "liquid pool at midnight two feet deep reflection" of a first rate $8K paint job, but it looked fine and stood out to most far, far more than more modern blingers with the $5K wheels, $8K paint job and 100hp motor, which are so common as to be invisible.

In the less than two years I've been in this red ocean of debt, I've racked up about 47,000 miles. I have spent just under a buck a mile on it too, mainly because I am building it up as a platform for a monster $20K engine and am not trying to just have it a "nice old vette in good shape," and also because I had a rear wheel come off at 80 due to a frozen bearing I never detected.

By the time my project is complete to my original plan I expect to have spent about $75K. Despite all of that, I just plan to get a $500 paint job every 2-3 years and not sweat the small stuff. To me it's just a crazy waste of money better spent on performance, luxury interiors, the enormous number of aftermarket upgrades made for these things if you plan on pretty much living in the car as much as you can. (I spend much more on CREDIT on this stupid thing and I *WILL* be living in it... :) )

Some tips on the frequent 1/10th cost decent paint job approach.

1)Make sure you see several examples of the shop's work - preferrably SELECT the shop based on some acquaintances vehicles you have seen. Make sure they do fiberglass. Fiberglass is NOT as tough to paint as some seem to think, but it IS different from metal, especially in depth of prep required and paint, primers, etc. If the shop has a particular brand or shade they want to use, let them! They work with the stuff all the time - cheap or not, they know what has worked in the past in all likelihood.

2)Pick a good solid bright color with no frills. Forget the 18 layer metallic flake with 82 hand rubbed clear coat hopes. Red. Yellow. Green. Black.
A decent Non-Fading Blue. Nothing fancy. No fades and airbrushed things or scenes or other crap. Those high tech staggeringly expensive and stunningly beautiful paint jobs (which are ruined by one. little. brat. with. keys. or. one. distracted. soccer. mom.) don't look good unless the absolute finest in craftsmanship is used to apply them.

3)Pick a color that is an EXACT match for some commonly available touch up paint. Try to get some perfect touch up paint FROM the painter, but this is more generally available on higher end paint jobs.

4)Spend more money on upgraded polished SS/chrome trim items. They are cheap and offset the lack of a world class street rodder paint job a lot.

5)With a cheap paint job, try to get it painted in a moderate temperature time of year. Too cold or wet and it may cure too slowly...too hot and it make "cook" before fully curing. This isn't even much of a concern on high end work, but is with "Fred, the guy around the place" who put up a paint booth in his double garage and REALLY KNEW DALE ERNHEART!!!

6)Let THEM do the prep. Unless you have a bunch of friends, that is an ENORMOUS and messy chore. Not only that, most key to a decent looking job is UNIFORMITY. Doing a great job of getting down to the gelcoat and no further in one section only to barely go through the top level of dead paint somewhere else and practically THROUGH the fiberglass in yet another will yield a finished product MUCH worse than if they had just gone through the top few layers of paint everywhere because their crew of cheap assistants were in a hurry. Uniformity is more important than much else in paint.

7)Do any body owrk you need done at LEAST several weeks ahead of the paint, prefferably a month or more. You want that patched fiberglass perfectly cured and all excessive reactants gone.

8)If you can arrange it without annoying them, drop by the shop AFTER the prep is done but before the taping is. Don't hesitate to ask if some part is not done correctly to your eyes or similar to everything else.

9)Be freindly and generous with the crew doing the work - not just the owner. A promised decent tip and/or a case of beer and some fast food for lunch can be the difference between an indifferent rush job and one where the people doing the work did their best. Remember, in places where you get a cheap paint job, the help is NOT paid very much and is expected to hustle.
 
This must be one of the best forums I ever found on the web. I never expected such a load of information. Thanks guys! I appreciate all the different perspectives and I'll be able to find my way better now.

As soon as I get closer to actually owning a vette, I'll keep you guys posted. Right now, the plans are probably delayed somewhat as I the tranny of my (only) car failed yesterday. I'm dreading the call of the repair shop..

Matthijs
 

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