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To Be Or Not To Be Flight Judged

Will a Vette of yours ever be Flight judged?

  • Already has been

    Votes: 10 27.0%
  • Will be this year

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • Not now but someday

    Votes: 11 29.7%
  • Never gonna be

    Votes: 9 24.3%

  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .
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71 Conv. (Sold) / 98 Pewter Coupe (Sold)
I know we have lots of NCRS members here at the CAC. Some members I've spoken too are in it just for the vast expanse of knowledge and have no intention of ever having a car flight judged. I, on the other hand, fully intend to someday have a Flight car although it may not be the one I have now.

So with that said, who out there intends to go for Flight judging someday? When do you plan to do it?

If you've already done it, go ahead and tell the rest of us about the judging experience! That was a not so subtle hint directed at Guy, John, Chuck, and anyone else who has been through it.
 
I intend to have the 81 Flight Judged on the chapter level this year if I can. I intended to last year too but I made up my mind too late to get into the field.

Tom
 
I've actually tossed around the idea of finding a clean but cheap 86 just to say I have a Flight judged C4. I wonder who will be the first to Top Flight a C4 this year. I wish I could afford to get one and have it ready and judged in time for Hershey just for the feather in the cap of being one of the first C4s judged at a National convention. So, anyone out there offering a donation - I'll accept greenbacks or fiberglass:D.

-Eric
 
There seems to be a lot of low mileage, supposedly exellent condition, never seen snow early C4s in the trader papers lately. Some for very reasonable prices. Maybe you will be the first to Top Flight a C4.

Tom
 
Tom Bryant said:
There seems to be a lot of low mileage, supposedly exellent condition, never seen snow early C4s in the trader papers lately. Some for very reasonable prices. Maybe you will be the first to Top Flight a C4.

Tom

Now if they were only doing ZR-1s... :D
 
I can take a hint.

When I bought the 82 2 1/2 years ago, I found this organization called the NCRS on the internet, and found there was a chapter meet in Maine in a few weeks. I emailed the judging chairman (Mark Lincoln) and he CALLED me 5 minutes later. After a few minutes Mark said, "Sounds like you have a Bowtie car. Why don't you have the 82 judged?" OK, I'm in - I joined the NCRS real quick! The day of judging the local chapter members and I met at a rest area on I-95 in NH. I was first and then came about 20 cars rolling in one by one from all generations. We were quite the site in the rest area.

The meet was at a member's home in Wells, Me. First up some more introductions, a quick owner's meeting and on to judging. Five teams of two judges each went over my car for several hours. Now at this point I've never read a judging manual so I was too stupid to be nervous. Oh, the Fram air & oil filters are not correct - oops. Same with the battery and I get brownie points for an NCRS sticker, battery quick-disconnect and fire extinguisher? Before the day was out, the 82 took Top Flight. Even better was the education I received on not only what was wrong, but why many thigs were correct - my 82 is supposed to have that green dipstick? You bet.

The following year it was on to the Northeast Regional outside of Montreal where again the 82 took Top Flight. I'll spare you the details since that has already been posted. But I will say it was a great time!

Now I have the 82 registered for both Flight and Bowtie judging at the National NCRS convention coming up this summer in Hershey, Pa. I'm waiting for that envelope from the NCRS which will tell me if the 82 is in or not. There are only so many slots available and I'm just one of SO many who want to do the same. If I don't get into both categories, I hope to get into Bowtie since Bowtie can only be achieved at a national convention.

So there you have it. Quite long I'm sorry to say, but I must add that my experience has been a great education. Although I'm very proud of my 82, my hat's off the those folks with the C1's, C2's and early C3's - the folks who put a lot of sweat, time and money into this hobby. I was lucky enough to find an original 82. There have been a few correct parts to hunt down, but that also was fun.

It's Sunday and tomorrow I leave for Florida and my first Winter Regional. The 82 is ready to fly but due to my co-pilot's medical problems, the 82 stays home. We had to make the final call yesterday. As many of you know, my pal has been fighting cancer for over a year now. The chemo treatments aggravate an older back problem and the passenger seat in the Vette is not adjustable but we'll be there.

Thanks for reading.
:w
Guy
 
Great story, Guy - I always encourage new members to have their cars judged before they start working on them; it's a great learning experience, and regardless whether they qualify for an award first time out or not, the score sheets the owner takes home make a great worklist and planning tool to improve the car, if that's what the owner wants to do. Between the published Judging Guide and score sheets from a meet, you've got everything you need to start deciding where you can get the most points for your bucks for future Flight Judging (or, for a car like yours where a Bowtie may be in the future, what NOT to touch!). Even more important than the car are the great people you meet when you join and get involved with your local NCRS Chapter and participate in all the activities. Good luck at Hershey - I'll see you there!
:beer
 
I've had my '69 and the '78 I just sold both flight judged. Both at the chapter level, and I also had the '69 done at a regional. I started with having the '69 judged at a chapter meet, and was pretty nervous. The experience, however, was great. I was a relatively new member to the chapter, and although I've been a member of national since the late '70s, I had never had a car judged before. The chapter judging is lot lower key than regional (and, I'm sure, national), and is a great way to get started.

One thing to keep in mind, though. The judges are not perfect. In the chapter meet a couple things were judged as incorrect on my '69, and I immediately started spending money and time to "correct" them. My windshield is one example. It's a clear windshield (no tinting), however the judging manual only had details on the tinted windshield at the time, so I lost points because they thought it was not correct. I ordered a new windshield, but fortunately discovered the truth before I replaced it. Unfortunately, the new glass got broken before I could send it back, but that's another story.

I say this not to fault the judges, but rather to remind people that they're only human, and not everyone is an expert on every Corvette. If you're serious about having a really well restored car, have it judged 2 or 3 times at different meets and by different judges, if possible, before making any major changes to your car.
 
JohnZ said:
Even more important than the car are the great people you meet when you join and get involved with your local NCRS Chapter and participate in all the activities. Good luck at Hershey - I'll see you there!
:beer

Quite right, John. I left out the best part - the NCRS community! A truly wonderful group of folks. That's why I'm on my way to Kissimmee, Fl tomorrow - just to be there, participate and learn. I needed an original radiator cap and it was an NCRS member I met at a local cruise night who pointed me to John Pirkle (and Mr. Pirkle had an NOS one still in bubble wrap:D).

:w
Guy
 
JohnZ said:
......I always encourage new members to have their cars judged before they start working on them; it's a great learning experience, and regardless whether they qualify for an award first time out or not, the score sheets the owner takes home make a great worklist and planning tool to improve the car, if that's what the owner wants to do. Between the published Judging Guide and score sheets from a meet, you've got everything you need to start deciding where you can get the most points for your bucks for future Flight Judging (or, for a car like yours where a Bowtie may be in the future, what NOT to touch!).....:beer

John,

Funny you should say that, in a phone conversation today with the Hershey chairman he asked me (for the second time) when I was going to get my car judged. Mind you it is nowhere near restored IMHO but he thinks I should do it at our chapter meet in May just so I can have a benchmark to go by for future projects. Tobe honest, I should probably change my vote up top cause it probably will end up judged this year, though I'll be too busy at Nationals to even think about getting it judged, as if it would even qualify but then miracles do happen:D.

- Eric
 
I'm thinking of getting mine judged this year. I'm hoping for at least a Third Flight my 1st time out. I started on a few minor improvements...correct plug wires, valve cover bolts & getting my factory radio, clock & AC working...
I'll re-evaluate whether or not I'll continue after that. If I'm that far gone...I don't think I'd be willing to invest all that $$$, especially since it already runs and looks good.
 
tonyk72 said:
I'm thinking of getting mine judged this year.....

So Tony, if it Flights, any chance of you making the haul to Hershey?

-Eric
 
Probably not...my wife is havin' a baby and I think I should stick around :)
 
tonyk72 said:
Probably not...my wife is havin' a baby and I think I should stick around :)
Well there's always next year. 2004 National will be up in the Great White North - may be closer for you than Hershey. So I guess I'll see you in Canada.:D

-Eric:w
 
71Shark said:
Well there's always next year. 2004 National will be up in the Great White North - may be closer for you than Hershey. So I guess I'll see you in Canada.:D

-Eric:w

Yup - the part of Canada that's SOUTH of Detroit! :D
 
I went throught that many times a couple of years back and finally made Top Flight with my 1969 L-46 Roadster. In fact I wrote an article on the experience for NCRS and made the cover of their restorer magazine in 2000. You can read the article and see the car at www.discoverynet.com\~tkearns\bigdog.htm

It can be nerve racking, but once complete,...its VERY satisfying !
 
I just bought a Silver '68 Coupe 327/350hp in Atlanta,Ga, that I have not even seen yet and have already registered it for the Atlanta Regional April 3-5. How's that for jumping right into the "mix" of things??? I've been judging mainly '73-'82s since '98, helped out a few times at the chapter level on '63-'72s, so I pretty prepared on "what to expect of the judging". This time, I'll be the one gettin' judged!!!
 
paintdaddy said:
Hey paul,Id like to see that 68 .I also have a 68 silverstone coupe.Also where is the regionals in Atl..Id like to go to that.:w

Stone Mountain. I'm sure Paul has the hotel name. Anyone know if they still do the laser show on the mountain? I think it was a seasonal thing too.

:w
Guy
 
Great,My camaro pace car was in a concours show at St. mountain a few years ago.Thats a good place for a show.As far as the laser show ,I think they still do it but it starts up memorial day. :cool
 

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