frltsta11
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My right front turn signal is loose. How do you get to it to tighten?
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c4c5specialist
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Hi there,
Underneath the front nose, there is a black plastic panel. It is retained by 7mm screws, six of them I think.
Remove these screws, and the panel comes out. Once this panel is out, you can access the signal, for bulb change, and to see if you can tighten the mounting bolts for the actual signal itself.
Take care, and let us know how you make out, c4c5
Underneath the front nose, there is a black plastic panel. It is retained by 7mm screws, six of them I think.
Remove these screws, and the panel comes out. Once this panel is out, you can access the signal, for bulb change, and to see if you can tighten the mounting bolts for the actual signal itself.
Take care, and let us know how you make out, c4c5
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I have a question about these also....over the summer, I noticed condensation in both turn signals...my "extended" warranty runs out at the end of this month....what would be the cause of condensation in them? i didnt see any cracks on the front....what can i do? Go to the dealer? 
c4c5specialist
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HI there,
Condensation is a normal condition on these particular design turn signal lamps.
There is no need for replacement here.
Only if there is visible water inside the lens, will replacement be needed.
As a test, have the car run for 10 mins, with the DRLs on, and see if the condensation is still there. It most likely will not be.
Please keep us posted, c4c5
Condensation is a normal condition on these particular design turn signal lamps.
There is no need for replacement here.
Only if there is visible water inside the lens, will replacement be needed.
As a test, have the car run for 10 mins, with the DRLs on, and see if the condensation is still there. It most likely will not be.
Please keep us posted, c4c5
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Condensation is normal? Wow....i never heard of any turn signal/lamp housing where condensation was "normal." On another board, a specific C5 board that i belong to, i was told that this is a common problem indeed, however there is a need to replace them. Any thoughts to validate this?
c4c5specialist
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The bulletin number escapes me, however, I will repost it tomorrow.
You see, the newer lamp assemblies are vented now, and are not perfectly sealed. This is why you see some condensation in the lens.
It is made to allow moisture to escape, but not enter. This is why if you see actual water inside the lens, then there should be a replacement.
I will post the bulletin tomorrow, so you will have some GM documentation to back up my statements.
Allthebest, c4c5
You see, the newer lamp assemblies are vented now, and are not perfectly sealed. This is why you see some condensation in the lens.
It is made to allow moisture to escape, but not enter. This is why if you see actual water inside the lens, then there should be a replacement.
I will post the bulletin tomorrow, so you will have some GM documentation to back up my statements.
Allthebest, c4c5
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Hi there,
The bulletin number is 01-08-42-001, and the following is taken directly from that bulletin.
Some exterior lamps, such as cornering, turn signal, backup, headlamps or tail lamps may exhibit very small droplets of water, a fine mist or white fog (condensation) on the inside of the lamp lens. This may be more noticeable on lamps with "multi-lens" designs and may be normal during certain weather conditions.
Condensation occurs when the air inside the lamp assembly, through atmospheric changes, reaches the "dew point". When this takes place, the moisture in the air within the lamp assembly condenses, creating a fine mist or white fog on the inside surface of the lamp lens.
Most exterior lamps on General Motors vehicles use a vented design and feature a replaceable bulb assembly. They are designed to remove any accumulated moisture vapor by expelling it through a vent system. The vent system operates at all times, however, it is most effective when the lamps are ON or when the vehicle is in motion. Depending on the size, shape and location of the lamp on the vehicle, and the atmospheric conditions occurring, the amount of time required to clear the lamp may vary from 2 to 6 hours.
Condensation
"A fine mist or white fog on the inside surface of the lamp lens occurring after a period of high humidity".
May be located primarily in the lens corners (near the vents) and SHOULD NOT cover more than half the lens surface.
The condition should clear of moisture when the vehicle is parked in a dry environment, or when the vehicle is driven with the lights ON.
A comparison of the equivalent lamp on the opposing side of the vehicle indicates a SIMILAR performance.
If the above conditions are noted, the customer should be advised that replacement of a lamp assembly may not correct this condition.
Water Leak
"Numerous & various size drops of water collecting on the inside surface of the lamp lens after the vehicle has been exposed to rain or a car washing environment".
A condition that covers more than half the surface of the lamp lens.
An accumulation of water in the bottom of the lamp assembly.
A condition that WON'T clear when the vehicle is parked in a dry environment, or when the vehicle is driven with the lights ON.
A comparison of the equivalent lamp on the opposing side of the vehicle indicates a different performance.
Any of the above conditions would indicate the need to service the lens or lamp assembly
I hope that this will help you take care of your concern.
Allthebest, c4c5
The bulletin number is 01-08-42-001, and the following is taken directly from that bulletin.
Some exterior lamps, such as cornering, turn signal, backup, headlamps or tail lamps may exhibit very small droplets of water, a fine mist or white fog (condensation) on the inside of the lamp lens. This may be more noticeable on lamps with "multi-lens" designs and may be normal during certain weather conditions.
Condensation occurs when the air inside the lamp assembly, through atmospheric changes, reaches the "dew point". When this takes place, the moisture in the air within the lamp assembly condenses, creating a fine mist or white fog on the inside surface of the lamp lens.
Most exterior lamps on General Motors vehicles use a vented design and feature a replaceable bulb assembly. They are designed to remove any accumulated moisture vapor by expelling it through a vent system. The vent system operates at all times, however, it is most effective when the lamps are ON or when the vehicle is in motion. Depending on the size, shape and location of the lamp on the vehicle, and the atmospheric conditions occurring, the amount of time required to clear the lamp may vary from 2 to 6 hours.
Condensation
"A fine mist or white fog on the inside surface of the lamp lens occurring after a period of high humidity".
May be located primarily in the lens corners (near the vents) and SHOULD NOT cover more than half the lens surface.
The condition should clear of moisture when the vehicle is parked in a dry environment, or when the vehicle is driven with the lights ON.
A comparison of the equivalent lamp on the opposing side of the vehicle indicates a SIMILAR performance.
If the above conditions are noted, the customer should be advised that replacement of a lamp assembly may not correct this condition.
Water Leak
"Numerous & various size drops of water collecting on the inside surface of the lamp lens after the vehicle has been exposed to rain or a car washing environment".
A condition that covers more than half the surface of the lamp lens.
An accumulation of water in the bottom of the lamp assembly.
A condition that WON'T clear when the vehicle is parked in a dry environment, or when the vehicle is driven with the lights ON.
A comparison of the equivalent lamp on the opposing side of the vehicle indicates a different performance.
Any of the above conditions would indicate the need to service the lens or lamp assembly
I hope that this will help you take care of your concern.
Allthebest, c4c5
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Thank you for the information. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong....I just find it exteremly difficult to believe that a $45,000 dollar car would be designed so poorly in this aspect. My 86 Trans Am is a daily driver....137,000 miles since new, and no condensation in the front or rear turnsignals/brake lamp housings. And my front turn signals are cracked from side to side. I just find it difficult to accept such a condition on a newer vehicle thats been redesigned from the ground up. These turn signals should have been designed better...so NO condensation gets into them. :eyerole :eyerole :eyerole :eyerole :eyerole
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