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Valve-Open Duration & Intake Plenum Questions

SSTibet

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1. In CAC Tech Center "Valve-Open Duration, Intake/Exhaust (in.)" is stated as 279/276 for the LT-1 engine. I am strongly assuming that this is in degrees altough it is noted as "in." in paranthesis. Is my assumption right?

2. I read at Performance Professor that there are "single plane", "two / dual plane" and "Independent Runner" type intake manifolds. What type is LT-1 engine intake plenum?

Cheers,

Selim

P.S. "Valve Lift, Intake/Exhaust (degrees)" is stated as 0.447/0.459. I also suppose this should be in inches not degrees...
 
Selim,


The LT1 would be the independent runner type. The single/dual plane manifolds are from the carburated cars. If you've ever seen the intake from a carburated vehicle with the carb taken off, it's just one big inlet. Sometimes, they have a little piece that separates that big inlet.
 
Ed,

Thanks much for the information & web links. What are your comments for the units of measure for the valve duration & lift?

Cheers,

Selim
 
Selim,

I believe it is in degrees. the .xxx is measured in inches for valve lift. I also believe it's measured for the 1.5 rocker arms. A switch to 1.6 roller rockers would give a small increase in power due to more lift.
 
279/276 is the amount of duration (in degrees) that the cam lobe holds the valve open. The two numbers represent the values for each valve. Here's a good description from the FordSix.com web site:
DURATION: Duration is how long the cam holds the valves open. It’s expressed in degrees of crankshaft rotation (remember, the cam rotates at half the speed of the crank). A 280-degree-duration cam holds the valves open longer than a 260-degree-duration cam. Holding the valves open longer allows more air and fuel into the engine and also allows more to get out through the exhaust. Longer duration (higher number) improves top-end power but almost always sacrifices low-end torque. Lower duration improves low-end torque and makes the car idle better, but it limits top-end power, and you can get only so much valve lift with a short duration cam due to the rate-of-lift limitations of the lifter. Roller cams have the advantage of allowing high rates of lift with relatively short duration.

The confusing thing about duration is the difference between “advertised” and “at .050-lift” duration. At .050-lift duration is measured from the point where the cam moves the lifter up .050 inch until .050 inch before the lifter is all the way back down. Most cam manufacturers differ in where they start and finish measuring for advertised duration. Some start at .004-inch lift, some at .008-inch and some measure it somewhere in between. That’s why the .050-lift numbers are the best to go by. A 280 cam (advertised duration) from one manufacturer could actually have less at–.050 duration than a 278 cam from another, due to the different points at which the companies measure advertised duration.

LOBE SEPARATION ANGLE: This is the relationship between the centerlines of the intake and exhaust lobes. A 110-degree lobe separation angle means that the peak opening points of the intake and exhaust lobes are 110 degrees apart. This is ground into the cam and can’t be changed without changing cams. Lobe separation angle is another way of expressing overlap, which is the term formerly used by cam manufacturers. Overlap is the amount of time that both valves are open in the same cylinder. When both valves are open at the same time, cylinder pressure drops. A cam with 106 degrees of lobe separation angle will have more overlap and a rougher idle than one with 112 degrees, but it’ll usually make more midrange power.

DUAL-PATTERN CAMS: A dual-pattern cam is one that has different duration and/or lift specs for the intake and exhaust. Usually, the exhaust lobes have more duration and lift than the intakes. Depending on the engine, this can be beneficial for engines with poor exhaust-port flow or otherwise-restricted exhaust systems.

Hot Rod magazine also has some good tips:
Tip 6: In the area of single- and dual-pattern camshafts, controversy seems to reign supreme. Proponents of the dual-pattern grind feel that a standard pushrod engine will breathe better on the intake side than it does on the exhaust side. In this scenario, the exhaust lift and duration figures are greater in order to compensate for the exhaust port’s inability to breathe. The single-pattern group points out that the exhaust is somewhat controlled by cylinder pressure. The piston movement helps to force the exhaust from the combustion chamber and, as a result, the intake port does not have any real advantage. This makes for a single-pattern camshaft that features identical intake and exhaust lobe profiles. Which is the better of the two designs? Both have merit. Your particular combination might respond properly with a dual-pattern cam grind while a slightly different Chevrolet might show promising results with a single-pattern grind.
 
Thanks guys, this is more information than I can digest :)

Ken, do you think CAC will make corrections to the units of measures for valve open & valve lift (degrees instead of inches, and inches instead of degrees). I believe the same mistake is in most models.

Cheers,

Selim
 
Selim, "lift" is a whole 'nother ballgame. :L

Duration (the time the valve stays open) is measured in degrees, while lift (the amount the valve opens) is measured in inches. ;)
 
Ken said:
Selim, "lift" is a whole 'nother ballgame. :L

Duration (the time the valve stays open) is measured in degrees, while lift (the amount the valve opens) is measured in inches. ;)

Ken,

That's what I said!:L:L:L
 
Ken said:
Selim evidently didn't hear you, Ed. :L

:cry

Ken,

I'm curious as to the specs on your heads/cam combo you're running!
 
Guys, we are all saying the same thing :mad . Duration is in degress, and lift is in inches. But the way they are stated in the CAC Tech Center is incorrect. Is someone going to correct it :( ? I believe most models have the same error. They should read as follows:
  • Valve-Open Duration, Intake/Exhaust (degrees)
  • Valve Lift, Intake/Exhaust (in.)
Maybe I am too much of a perfectionist. Darn...

Cheers guys, you are great people. I really enjoy being here with you.

Selim
 
Provide a link that takes me directly to the error you mention, Selim. I can't find what you are referring to. ;shrug
 
Okki dokki, I will do that Ken.

UPDATE:

Go to page http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/1996/lt1lt4.html and in "Component" column look up for Valve-Open Duration, Intake/Exhaust (in.) & Valve Lift, Intake/Exhaust (degrees)

They should read Valve-Open Duration, Intake/Exhaust (degrees), and Valve Lift, Intake/Exhaust (in.)

Selim
 
Ken, here is a picture of the page and the problem areas that I have been trying to explain. Again, I believe this error is in other models as well, not just in LT1 & LT4 pages.

Cheers,

Selim
 
What a relief, thanks much Ken. Hey, would you like me to be a proof reader for some CAC pages :) Belive me I will drive you folks crazy... I am an engineer and also a pretty strong perfectionist... Sometimes I drive myself crazy!

Cheers,

Selim
 

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