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[dshanks]

Confirmed

I have big news about our friends at Fivestar Engines...
Space cowboy is on to something here. When the suit is over, I will post the judgement for all of you to see.
Lets see Chris talk his way out of this one...
The evidence that I have is irrefutable...


Derrick

 

[dshanks]

Think twice before you purchase an engine from "5 STAR ENGINE EXCHANGE" out of Arizona.

Space Cowboy, we need to talk. email me back through this forum...

 

[dshanks]

Sorry, its long, but you can fast-forward to the good parts...
http://www.dshanksdesign.com/fivestar/

 

[Jack]

Sorry, its long, but you can fast-forward to the good parts...
http://www.dshanksdesign.com/fivestar/

http://www.dshanksdesign.com/fivestar/ So, I listened to all of it. I'll tell you what I think. First, you recorded a telephone conversation between the 5 Star owner and yourself ... without the guy knowing you did so ... then you put a link to that telecon up here on CAC for any & all to listen to ... THAT's WRONG PARTNER!:nono

Even Worse, you tell the guy that you defended him on CAC.

Well that's a fact; you did PUBLICLY defend him here on CAC. But you did so because you were in the midst of working a deal of your own with him; a deal not known to CAC until you linked to telecon. As soon as it looked like that deal may be going south, you PUBLICLY turned on him like a snake. Moreover, by publicly defending him here while you had a vested interest you chose to become a common schill.:nono

Frankly, it don't matter if 5 Star is at fault or not ... because YOU'RE WRONG.

IMHO, now you have absolutely no credibility. And because of what I consider your gross abuse of this forum, I believe you should be banned from here.:bash

 

[dshanks]

First, you recorded a telephone conversation between the 5 Star owner and yourself ... without the guy knowing you did so ... then you put a link to that telecon up here on CAC for any & all to listen to ... THAT's WRONG PARTNER!:nono

Frankly, it don't matter if 5 Star is at fault or not ... because YOU'RE WRONG.

Of course you have your opinion, but as far as the legalities of posting a recorded conversation...or recording a conversation for that matter...
please research your thoughts before you publically post them. You may be a fine Corvette mechanic, but don't give up your day job to be an attourney.
I used to work for one of the "top 3" insurance companies in the country. I'm familiar with the laws about recording others. Only one has to give consent, one did, mainly me...
Oh yeah, and the recording device cant be part of the phone system itself...covered there...
And even if the judge rendered it inadmissable, notice I had a witness...you cant tell me that I cant have someone present during a speakerphone coversation, I can play that for whomever I want, it belongs to me...

And for thier business ethics, and whether I did right or wrong??? I have to say that siding with him after hearing that conversation is a little nieve...
Read some books about business ethics, or hell, review your own morals...would you do that to somebody??? Maybe you would, none of us really know you, do we???

To put this into perspective...
Would it be ok to hire your son to mow my lawn all summer, condition being I pay him the sum of all mows at the end of the summer (a BIG score for him). Come September, he calls, he calls, he emails, 6 weeks go by...he calls with the intent only to send a bill
So I decide early November that I wont pay him because he sent me a bill for his services...and I was offended by that. It was "pushy".
By atty advice, the right thing to do is to serve a bill and give him 60 days, which I will. The 6 weeks was a gift as far as the attys concerned...
The reason I refer to court, is that he promised he wouldnt pay, there is no in between, no second chance for me, you heard him...

The reason I came here, is because he's got a 100% failure rate. Me and space cowboy, both screwed. Know someone they didnt screw?? good point?? Is this a pattern? Who knows, thank god there are people like us to watch out for others...why dont you buy one of thier engines and prove us wrong then...

Anyway, its now for Chris and the judge to decide, not you...

p.s.-ban me then...

 

[Jack]

No, I'm not an attorney and doubt you are either. I do consulting work from time to time. Before I begin work on a project, I have a written, signed-off contract. My customers & myself require it; apparently, you did not.

You're wrong in that you've chosen to try your case here on CAC.

You're wrong to publicize a private conversation ... that may or may not be legal, I don't know ... but you're morally wrong.

By all means, if you think you've been wronged, do have your attorney file suit right there in a MO court ... better yet file it yourself.

Either way, wait & see IF, IF the court will even hear it ... news flash, the court can choose not to hear a case ... not unusual.

On the odd chance the court does hear the case ... I do hope you will testify ... I have a feeling you'd make an excellent impression on the trial judge/jury. Perhaps you'll sneak a camera into court and webcast the proceedings. Let us know when the webcast of your testimony begins; I'll pay $20 to access that.

On the wild chance that you prevail, maybe you'll have as much luck having a MO court execute judgement in another state.
JACK:eyerole

 

[dshanks]

It's small claims court...calm down. There are no atourneys in the court room.
BTW, you legally have the right to try any case.

I have nothing else to say. this will be determined in a LEGAL way. I will post the judgement when its through, after all, its public record...

Dont expect anymore posts from me in this thread until this is resolved, you all know my angle by now, no need to beat a dead horse...


AND-what does this have to do with my right to post here, I have more history with vettes than the larger % of the people here. I may have something good to say sometime, you know : )

 

[Jack]

BTW-what does this have to do with my right to post here, I have more history with vettes than 90% of the people here.

And you DID write 90% before you edited it.

It has nothing to do with our "right to post here" because, except for this site's owner, nobody has a right to post here. You, I nor anyone else but this site's owner has any "right" to post here. Our privilege to post here is simply that; a privilege. That privilege is either denied, granted or revoked by the authority of this site's owner. We are guests here; we have no ownership.

Compared to your extensive vette history/experience, I suspect more than 10% of the folks here have the abilities to either build their own motor or have one built locally ... rather than seek a reman from halfway across the country.

I'm content killing some time and increasingly amused ... keep on digging that hole, I might just reply.
JACK:eyerole

 

[dshanks]

As for my "vette experience", never NOT had one. Dads had over 20, none newer than 76...The torch has been passed to me...
Ever slept in the Ttop storage compartment? Did you learn to drive stick or take your first date out in the corvette you currently own? I did, I'm 30, enough said...

Not trying to insist I have my right to post here, just looking out for your best interests...

 

[Jack]

As for my "vette experience", never NOT had one. Dads had over 20, none newer than 76...The torch has been passed to me...
Ever slept in the Ttop storage compartment? Did you learn to drive stick or take your first date out in the corvette you currently own? I did, I'm 30, enough said...

Not trying to insist I have my right to post here, just looking out for your best interests...

Dad never owned a vette, I didn't have that sort of privilege. When I wanted to use his mower to make some pocket change, he refused. I found a junker & fixed it myself ... age eleven.

My first real date was in her car; a large Chrysler wagon w/ curtains ... before the vette I currently own was produced & before I even had a full license. I learned to drive a stick in Dad's Econoline and he rightly insisted I help him rebuild its trans when I tore it up; I slept in it too ... a bit more room than the wagon. Dad also had a Lotus Cortina I dated in a bit; I broke the rear gear in it ... I received it for HS grad present while still in need of a ring & pinion; I fixed it ... I don't recall sleeping in it but I think I may've warped its hood. I've also slept in a tent. I've never slept in a vette & don't wish to try. And for more than a few years now, I've been sleeping with the same gal. None of that qualified me as an expert on mowers, Chryslers, Econolines, Cortinas, tents or women.
JACK:gap

 

[Yoda]

Several times now I've considered closing this thread!!

The issue between a member here at CAC and ANY outside vendor is not an endorsement for either side, by The Corvette Action Center!! Many accusations, whether based on facts or emotions have been stated within this thread. Others have chimmed in with as much heated and sensationalized versions of personal experiences and advice.

I caution everyone to look for the solution and quit staring at the problem. Everyone has an opinion, EVERYONE, the effected parties need to evaluate their position and determine what if any airing this issue in the Corvette Action Center is really their intent.

This thread has taken various directions, and it appears to be heading toward a ****ing match. Our membership crosses almost every experience border in Corvette Ownership. It's not our place as Corvette owners to place judgement on either party until (or IF) they resolve the problem and BOTH Party's agree to make a statement of it's outcome. When one side of an issue is heard, you only hear 1/2 the story

Both parties involved in this dispute have responded.

THREAD CLOSED!!

Bud Dougherty
C3 Forum Administrator