Where can I get a proper paint formula for venitian red

[IH2LOSE]

Well my unkle has decided to paint his new to him 57 venetian red. he is in the process of restoring his hard top and needs a good paint formula. It seams the color the shop had mixed doesnt look like the color he remebers or is exspecting. Some place or time I remember so post on this but I can find where it was. it was here or on the NCRS data base. Can anybody send me in the correct direction?

So whats new with me? No much regaurding corvettes I had the 62 out at a show a couple of weeks ago and had a great time talking with folks. it actually gave me a good reason to wash and drive the car. I got beaten in a race by a new Z06 from a roll of about 70 ,I wont say what we went up to but it was like I just needed another gear to go into. WOW those Z06's are "FAST" If they only made convertables.

Took the 66 out for a ride that was allot of fun, actually exciting after driving my pick up all winter it take a little while to learn how to drive the 66 again. YES I still remember how to shift.

Well speak to you folks soon

Larry

 

[BarryK]

Hi Larry

Here is a chart I have on my website Tech Articles page:
http://lbfun.com/Corvette/Tech/vettetech_files/Paint%20Conversion%20Chart.pdf

scroll down to the 1957 year.

Now, I believe this is still going to give you a bit of an issue to get a correct and accurate color match since these codes are for the original lead-based lacquer paints. PPG still offers lacquer and it MIGHT match up fairly close, in lacquer paint it was pretty close on my '65 Milano Maroon, but if he is going to go with basecoat/clearcoat it's going to be off and the painter is simply going to have to experiment and tint it himself until you get a mix that works for you. Since I ending up going with BC/CC on my '65 it took quite a long time until we finally came up with an acceptable mix on the correct shade and metallic level.
Obviously if you still have any panels showing the original color the painter or his paint supplier can try scanning it but I learned during my paintjobs on both my '65 and '78 that some colors just don't scan well to come up with a very accurate and correct shade and colors in the red family are some of the most difficult to rely on the scanner.

 

[JohnZ]

Here's the 1980's PPG gallon mix formula for '57 Venetian Red lacquer:

DMA311 White - 74.3
DMA361 Red - 363.6
DMA336 Orange - 1149.2
DMA356 Orange - 4044.4

If you call the PPG Color Librarian at (440) 572-6111, she should be able to verify it and tell you what the mix formula is with BC/CC.

 

[IH2LOSE]

Thanks Barry And John.

Barry Your web site has come along way,has a ton of great info in it

See you guys in Carlilse

 

[BarryK]

thank Larry

I'm trying. In fact I just got 6 or so more very good tech articles I need to add up to the page.
The real credit goes to all the authors of the articles who let me post them up for everyones benefit.

Hope to see you in Carlisle again this year, if i can make it there. This year has become a bit 'iffy". Was planing on our regular arrival on Thurs and staying thru till Sunday but may need to change that now. some chance I may not be able to make it at all or if so only for a day or two. Will have to play it by ear
If I'm able to be there I'll try to look for you.

 

[Red Vette]

I hope that you can get the match you want. IMO, venetian red was "orange". I had a 56 in 1960 - 64 in venetian red color for the exterior and interior. Reminded me of my high school colors, orange and black. My roommate in college had a gorgeous 57 in venetian red, and when we attended the first corvette convention in St Louis, everyone agreed that it deserved to be at the front of all of the corvettes when the pics were taken. When venetian red is buffed out, it is magnificient, but it is still orange. I repainted my 56 roman red and changed the interior to black. Preferred the roman red. Unfortunately, the head liner on the hard top was venetian red and I did not change it. As you can tell, I am not an orange color fan, but to each his own. I'll bet your corvette will be outstanding as one does not see many venetian red 56-57s. Hope you post some photos when it is done.
Barrett

 

[JohnZ]

Here's my Venetian Red '57 in natural light (judged many times, never got a deduction for color); there IS a lot of orange in it. However, anyone who has ever set up the judging field/floor for an NCRS judging meet knows you NEVER put two Venetian Red cars next to each other, as the likelihood of two of them matching is remote.

 

[porch dog]

in doing the 57 restomod the formula for the red is not available any more . the computer match is actually poppy red. it is orange . i had it mixed in ppg concept single stage.

 

[IH2LOSE]

Thanks again everyone for the helpfull advice. He was over this week end for fathers day and I gave hime a picture of johns Car as encouragement so he can see what the end result will be.

They mixed the paint up------------- but decided it was too orange so they sweatened it up a tad to make it more red , Against my recomendations but it seams every one remembers the color as more red.

I am enjoying watching this car morph into a restored car. its most enjoyable watching it change into a new car when its somebody elses money being spent.

Thanks Again