Zaino users - Interesting Info on the PPG site

[Iron Chef]

I'm not saying right or wrong, but this is what I found on the PPG website:
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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the first 90 days
It is recommended that you not wax or polish the vehicle. This will allow the finish to completely dry and cure. (When you are ready to wax, do not use silicone containing or super polymer containing waxes or polishes) Today's finishes do not need such extreme protection and if your vehicle were involved in an accident, the removal of such waxes would be time consuming and expensive. [/font]

http://www.ppg.com/car_autocoat/enthusiast.htm

Interesting, no?

 

[slapshot]

That is interesting. I don't see it being "time consuming", you just wash it with Dawn. I disagree that modern cars don't need "extreme protection". When I used carnuba based wax, I have to reapply after every other wash because the crap washes off. If modern paint was so wonderful, we wouldn't get water spots, etc etched into the paint. Since I started using Zaino, I haven't seen any imperfections in the paint. It keeps water, bird poop, tree sap, etc from affecting the clear coat. They can say what they wan't, but many people will disagree.

 

[Aurora40]

That clip of the article seems to be a bit wives-tale filled. Any paint or car (or pretty much anything) can certainly benefit from more protection. As for the removal of waxes being time consuming or expensive, that's absurd. So if you go to a paint shop and say "I've never waxed my car", they just won't bother prepping the surfaces before painting them??

Slapshot, perhaps you can be a bit more specific about the product you used and the environment it was exposed to, instead of making a blanket statement about carnauba waxes being crap or not lasting very long. Much like synthetic products, there are hundreds of different carnauba products that perform in hundreds of different ways.

 

[kingman]

When to apply first wax coat???????

I was led to believe that a new car should not be waxed or taken to a car wash for a period of time until the paint fully cures.

But in todays cars they are painted and when it's cured they put a clear coat over it, Now if the problem is with the clear coat l buy it, but not the paint.

I normally wait only out of habit for approx 3 months but you should find out when it was orig built.

Tough one, because most of the new car dealerships let a kid hand wash it with towels that l wouldn't use to clean my wheels with.

When l am having a new car del l tell the dealership to clean the inside but l will handle the outside. Most of the time they come back with if they del a dirty car we will not be able to see any imperfections or better to cover any imperfectations.

Alan

 

[Aurora40]

I was led to believe that a new car should not be waxed or taken to a car wash for a period of time until the paint fully cures.

But in todays cars they are painted and when it's cured they put a clear coat over it, Now if the problem is with the clear coat l buy it, but not the paint.

I normally wait only out of habit for approx 3 months but you should find out when it was orig built.

New cars are painted while not yet assembled. The panels can be baked to cure the paint completely before the car is even finished. Post-new-car painting can't duplicate this so you need to wait to wax the car until it cures. You can wax your new car as soon as you get it home. Look in your owners manual as well, and you'll see no restriction listed on waxing it (with GM Cleaner/Wax or whatever they recommend...)

 

[slapshot]

In the past, I mostly used the Meguire's yellow carnuba. The shine was good, but it just didn't last very long. I used to detail cars, and had the same results with other carnuba based waxes.
Since I keep my car garaged and covered, and only wash it every couple of months, I probably could get by with carnuba, but I have had excellent luck and results with Zaino. Sure, Zaino isn't perfect and there are other waxes/polishes that work well too. To me, wax/poilish is like which oil, tires, gas, etc everyone prefers. I didn't mean to inply that ALL carnuba is junk, it depends on the environment the cars finish is exposed to.

 

[JJU]

I save old posts from Sal Zaino and once in a while they come in handy. Here's one associated with this subject:

There's alot of misinformation about waiting three months for the paint to cure. I am a custom painter by trade. I am very familar with Dupont, PPG and all the other paint manufacturers. The most I personally would wait on fresh "aftermarket body shop" paint before polishing with Zaino Show Car Polish is 1 week. That's more than sufficient curing time. Zaino contains no wax, silicone oil or abrasives. The new paints are catalyzed. A chemical reaction cures the paint. The older lacquers and enamels needed time for the solvents to release. This is not the case anymore. Believe me if that paint need 3 months to dry than it will never dry. Just the facts.

Here's another one about Body Shops and removing waxes and sealants:

Any quality shop or painter can remove Zaino or any polish/wax for that matter. They know just what to do to prepare the surface for paint. I ran my paint shop for thirty years and never ever had a problem prepping a surface for paint. Proper surface preparation is very important to paint adhesion. If a body shop can’t remove Zaino, they shouldn’t be painting your car. There are many commercial body shop products that are specifically designed to remove polish/wax to prep a surface prior to painting. Isopropyl Alcohol will also remove Zaino.