"buy it now" $41,998 - looks like a good deal from where I am sitting!

[Redmanf1]

Luigi, you are correct about the conditions of the vehicle and of the seller. Sometimes it is not that the person has to sell it may be that they just want to try something else. Then they justify the loss as personal use as you say. I have had quite a few turbo cars just not the Callaway some good some bad. I had an 87 GNX in 89 and an 89 GTA turbo. Remember the 80 T/A pace car with the 301 turbo? I also had one of those. I had a bi turbo maserati what a POS. 930 turbo . I also understand what you are saying about prices I know some BB metal cars that the values have been going through the roof.

 

[Redmanf1]

If I was going to keep a car for many years the price would not make that much difference. I sometimes get a wild hair and want to change cars and that is why I do not want to pay escalated prices. Like I said if you wait long enough a buyer will usually come along, but it could take years. I just do not want to be on that end. I do not think that red 90 is that bad of a deal since he put the new tires on it.

 

[callaway4fun]

Redman I am not in Fairyland I am speaking the truth . All you do is come on hear and say that every car you comment on is for too much money. If you have not noticed the prices for Callaways has started to go up. Just because you will not part with the money it does not mean it is not worth the money to someone else.As you see Cars are changing hands and people are getting the money they are asking. You might be caught sleeping if you think the prices will go down any further. With all the exposure we have gotten in the past 3 years the prices have started to climb. Which you seem to give every car that is for sale a knock on what it is priced. Alot of people come hear for information on these cars and they read the comments posted by all . They read your comments that the cars are priced to high that is your opinion sometime people should keep them to themselves. You have a negative impact for people interested in selling a Callaway. You seem to be on a mission to comment on all the cars for sale and say they are overpriced. One day hopefully you will release the purse strings and buy a Callaway before they climb to high .

Callaway4fun, I think I am entitled to my opinion as are you. I have not ripped on any forum member’s car and I do not need to buy one to talk about them. I have been on the selling end on the declining C4’s and C5. I just don’t let my emotions dictate the price that I will pay for a car. I have learned better. I do not get your quote on the comment to 89X2? All I basically was saying is that I thought that he got a decent deal and that they are still out there. He also has a motor to sell to offset the price of repairs. Do you have some problem with that? I will find one on my terms just as I have found other cars. Will it be the colors I want maybe not. I am not in a hurry and can wait. As for you saying I am always knocking or have negative attitude about pricing I think I have stated that some of the member’s cars here have been a decent value when for sale. Just because I do not live in fairy land like You and think that a price of $42K or $60K is not ridiculous does not mean everybody thinks the same. Is what you are saying is that if everybody does not agree with you they should refrain from posting there opinions or just if they do not own a car like yours?



Luigi, I have not bought one yet. I am kind of looking for an Aero Vert. I really like the look of your car and it is a different color. As far as prices I do not think they will get any cheaper or at least not much but I do not see them raising much for a few years.

 

[*89x2*]

...or may have to wait to see what Callaway does with C-6 ZO6 Ike

Ike, Latest issue of www.corvetteenthusiast.com eludes to the future Callaway projects - specifically, Z06

 

[kruzmisl]

Redman

I looked up all your old posts and Pete is right, you dog em all. Also I see double standard in that you want a aero vert in a unique color like Luigi! Just get a clue as what it will take to purchase a car like THAT!

 

[Redmanf1]

kruzmisI, You see double standard? You need to reread I said I liked his color not that it had to be a unique color. Get a clue for what it would take; since I have been collecting data on sales, no sales and ads for several years on Callaway’s, grand sport’s, Ce’s, pace car’s, ZR-1’s and a few others I think I do have a clue. There is a gentleman that is a forum member that has a nice aero vert for sale and that is all I am going to say about that. As far as you and callaway4fun say (I bash all), I did not bash his, SurfnSun’s, fastdaddy’s or as an example either of these two. So I guess not all. I basically had said what a decent buy 89X2 got on his new ride to show that they are buys still out there to be had and that was tried to be turned into a bashing.



http://corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69213



http://corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61638

 

[EricVonHa]

It has been nearly a year since I’ve read or posted anything here and the first thing that I clicked on today involves exactly the reason why I purposely avoid this site. The very top thread involves price bashing and criticisms involving Callaway cars. Here’s some further reasoning as to why I don’t participate here:

1. There is constant, and I mean CONSTANT bashing of any Callaway car that is on the market. It may not be “bashing” in the strictest sense of the word. It’s probably more like “criticism”. And it does nothing but degrade the cars value by placing every flaw in the eyes of the general public. You’ve all seen it. Someone goes to look at a car… then the detail is portrayed here in live drama. “It has the wrong wheels, the interior is rough, it has stone chips…”, etc. Everyone just needs to knock it off and reflect back to the days of being a kid… “if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all”. The authors of these posts probably don’t intend any harm, however, indirectly it does harm the seller’s opportunities to match their car with a buyer. I think every buyer has the right to be informed, however, let them be the judge of the condition. As an example, stone chips on an Aerobody nose?? Anyone who says that is observing nothing but a common trait of these cars. Is it good, bad or terrible? It’s in the eye of the beholder… let them be the judge. One stone chip to me on a collectible car is a disaster—to someone else, they’ll probably never notice it!



2. Almost every single Callaway car that is publicly listed for sale is usually discussed HERE. How many of those cars are actually participating CAC member cars that are for sale? I’m telling you that it less than 1% and that we could probably count on one hand the number of member cars that were ever for sale !!! So, to me, this is part of the reason why a lot of the negative criticism takes place. The cars that are being sold are being sold by 3rd party people/dealers who DO NOT participate here. If my car were for sale (and it’s not), I would personally be on the phone and tracking down the person who stated anything to the effect of “that car is not worth it… he’s asking too much.” By who’s standards? The twin turbo and Supernatural cars were all sold with wide and varying GM AND Callaway option packages. Even the color schemes vary from mild to wild. NO TWO CARS of identical construction and condition have ever been sold and documented within the last few years to place a value on whether the car “sold high” or “sold low”. These cars are so very unique AND collectible at this point (prime examples withstanding) and there are so FEW of them in existence; you need to ask yourself what value you can really place on it? Just because a ’91 TT convertible sold this year at whatever price—does that mean that the next seller should ask exactly the same? Hell no! What we have here on this site is a sad commentary about cars that have sold or have attempted to be sold. And the prices that are fetched indicate nothing more than a WIDE and VARYING price range on a very exclusive product.

• Ask yourself what the term “market value” truly means. Then, try to apply it to the twin turbo Callaways. Will a low mileage aerobody (non-speedster) ’91 bring $150k today? Probably not. If the seller were to list the “buy it now” price on E-bay at $100k, this site would be all over it… “that’s ridiculous”… “he’s never going to sell that car”… ‘it’s above “market price”’…. B.S. I’m telling you that seller has a prime opportunity to sell that car to the right buyer. And, it only takes one buyer. So what if the people that post here think that the car is “overpriced”. I can tell you from personal experience of buying and selling a dozen vehicles in my short time on this earth that there is ALWAYS a buyer out there. I’ve sold cars for prices that I didn’t think were possible. My point is that you can ask whatever you want—and it only takes one buyer to make it a reality. And, this site being the only internet enthusiast Callaway focal point can sway these buyers and educate them positively or negatively. So, as an owner and selfishly so, my vote is to keep all the feedback here positive.

4. I would hope that this discussion can continue and the management of this site decides to take more corrective action of this in the future. Free public advice here is great, however, a fair amount of the feedback is unwarranted. Very few, and I mean very few people here can look over a car and rank it on a 100 point scale. The sideline commentaries, in my mind, should be just that… sidelined. Take it off-line. Take it to email, whatever. There is a registry for these cars and the official information is not available on this site or from the participants. A lot of gossip and technical know how is available here, however, registered documentation of these cars is only available through Callaway directly. As we move forward into the next decade we’ll see the Bloomington and NCRS certifications start to play more of a role in determining “documented” values. Till then, I’m off my soapbox…

 

[kruzmisl]

WOW, very well said. Hat's off to you Eric for taking the time to straighten this out!

 

[90Callaway]

Well if nothing else I'm glad this thread brought Eric out of the woodwork. Hope you're coming to Carlisle! Yuenglings (sp?) for everyone!


Redman, good for you. Keep on collecting your stats instead of cars. If I was collecting stats on LS6 Chevelles I wouldn't own one now. I'd be talking about how I could have bought one in the 30's five years ago and now they are exceeding $100K. Collect cars, not stats. And buy them to enjoy them rather than look at them.

If you want a Callaway then buy one and stop talking about it. Otherwise go sit on the side line and keep your opinions to yourself. Obviously no one appreciates them. Yes, you are entitled to them. If you want to be a member of the Callaway community, which you may see is close knit for the members of the COG, then you should learn how to get along with others.

 

[*89x2*]

many,many of these cars are unique

Looking back at this thread, I can see how the opinions are running strong, as we are all very passionate about the cars we own or enjoy seeing.


That said, we are all entitled to what we feel and yet if we disagree, and can support our positions, healthy & spirited discussions are welcomed

We as owners have gained a lot and shared a lot here as a result of these discussions and speaking directly to the matter at hand, cars for sale, we have passed on some cars that have had some discrepancies. There is a lot of value inthe info here!

As mentioned by folks in this thread, many, many factors will play into the valuations of these cars - and rarely do you have two, to compare side by side @ the same time...

It is hard to put a value on a car like these but the market has given some guidance over time - most recently, they seem to have leveled off...

I will say from my personal experience and observations, that following the market can be a good thing and healthy for your wallet however, the bottom line often isn't "it", and you may offset a low price on a car by having to put addl. money into the car later on down the road.

I think we are all in agreement that the cars will go up in value, they should - after all, they have tremendous power, low production numbers , and a classic style w/ a high degree of quality in the option content.

I agree w/ the idea of keeping the statements positive and factual as well - a lot of mis-information about these cars and they are certainly on the verge of the "upswing" - any other C4's doing that right now???

Thanks to all Owners & Enthusiasts for contributions here on this site and at the events! As 90Callaway mentioned, we are tightly knit and the camaraderie here is second to none

- Chris

 

[C-4 Now]

The view from here is so different. I still don't have the car I want but at least I have one, many challenges and all! The goal was a 89 Callaway 6-speed convertible. Experts will know that means a total of 15 cars to choose from. Maybe later I will find one I like better??? But either way the $$$$$$$$$$$ are not the reason I wanted the car. Ike

 

[1badzr1]

Interesting I just call the dealer and they state the car is not for sale. The salesman says that the car is sitting there with plates but the car may have been taken off the market by the owner.

 

[*89x2*]

Interesting I just call the dealer and they state the car is not for sale. The salesman says that the car is sitting there with plates but the car may have been taken off the market by the owner.

...that is very interesting - Someone called on that car when it was listed @ 45k a year ago in Nebraska - Apparently the person who was on the other end of the phone said nope, not 45k - they wanted something more like 50k - I suspect these situations may be why the car hasn't sold - maybe they don't really want to part with it?? :confused

 

[TurboLuigi]

Or maybe its because someone already bought it with the "buy it now", seems that there were a couple of people near the buy it now price, but for now it seems to have been sold. I think someone got one sweet deal.

-Luigi
:cool

 

[*89x2*]

Callaway Enthusiasts and prospective owners, please remember to contact Joanne @ Callaway Cars (860)434-9002 for info about a Callaway you might be considering - Callaway Cars has an extensive database of record with much information that might be useful during the purchase process.​

Hope this helps
- Chris

 

[kaijumax]

I Bought the EBAY Callaway

I just thought I would let the viewers know I bought the 90' Callaway.
This is my 3rd C4 and I had an 89' that I used as a partial trade, which I owned for the last 11 years. I wanted something unique and was thinking about buying a 1st gen Camaro. I've owned a few and prices have been skyrocketing, especially B.Blocks. I came across the ebay car by accident while browsing. The car is not perfect but overall is in pretty damn good shape. I've wanted a ZR1 since I first read about them and the Callaway is the cream of the crop. I'm very happy with the car and am hoping to make September 18th show in Westford MA. I'm new to this group and like the reference and help thats available to Callaway owners(and ZR1s, ETC.).
Later!

 

[90Callaway]

Cool... Another MA Callaway owner. Welcome!

 

[kaijumax]

Thanks

Cool... Another MA Callaway owner. Welcome!

See you at Kimballs Ice Cream on the Sept 18th?

 

[67HEAVEN]

I confess to knowing very little about Callaways, but I'm surprised that the auction car isn't pulling higher dollars.

I'll have to educate myself.

 

[90Callaway]

See you at Kimballs Ice Cream on the Sept 18th?

I'd like to go but I'll be at the NHRA races in Maple Grove PA on that weekend.