Dealer says no deal...

[fullcontrol]

Just received the following private message from a fellow Corvette Forum member. I didn't find this to be the case with my dealer.

I am considering purchase of a CRM Callaway here in FL from the Callaway/Chev franchised dealer. The dealer tells me that their sales agreement w/ Callaway prohibits them from discounting the car from full MSRP. Was this true in your case?? I'm struggling with paying full MSRP + Callaway add-on for an '08 car...

 

[hotshotzny]

i dont care what they are selling, with the economy the way it is and sales in the crapper the way they are, holding out for msrp + is only going to mean one thing in my opinon... cars on the lot!!

my local dealer still swears that the 2008 atomic orange Z06 he has sitting in his showroom is going to go over sticker... even when i have showed him ads from other dealers....

 

[twiget]

The same three '08's have been sitting on the lot of my local dealer for over 2 months now, and they have a 2K "Dealer Market Adjustment" on them.

A few weeks ago another Chevy dealer had a Corvette show at his lot. There were 4 'Vettes in his showroom. All 4 were marked down a couple thousand below MSRP. Guess how many Corvettes he sold that day? Yep, all 4 of them (including a sweet black Z06).

I agree, a dealer that wont come down from MSRP is a dealer with a lot of Corvettes on their lot.

Jason

 

[catbert]

I've yet to see a dealer turn down a reasonable offer when he/she has expensive cars on the lot without potential buyers in the wings. You can ask for anything - the important thing is what you are offered. A dealer never knows when the next offer will come along after he turns down a reasonable one. For the first time in my memory, every Chevy dealer here in Phoenix has Vettes (Plural) on the lot. BUT WE ARE NOT IN A RECESSION!!!!:L

 

[C6MAN]

Go to Kerbecks site. They are discounting coups $ 10k.

 

[*89x2*]

While there is a lot of talk of a recession and such, let's keep this on track.

The question is, are dealers held to MSRP + the cost of the Callaway option.

While it is policy to not discount the Callaway content (2008 option price = $18,500), what you negotiate off the "base car" is your business and everyone can agree that it is done every day.

Again, this is different that ADM, or Adjusted Dealer Markup, or MSRP, plus...

The Callaway content is priced at what it is, and not marked up at all.

Again, the dealer sets the final price - case-in-point, if you are entitled to GM supplier price, you would pay that on the base car, then add the $18,500 for the Callaway content, plus any other Callaway options added.

I hope this helps

 

[fullcontrol]

While there is a lot of talk of a recession and such, let's keep this on track.

The question is, are dealers held to MSRP + the cost of the Callaway option.

While it is policy to not discount the Callaway content (2008 option price = $18,500), what you negotiate off the "base car" is your business and everyone can agree that it is done every day.

Again, this is different that ADM, or Adjusted Dealer Markup, or MSRP, plus...

The Callaway content is priced at what it is, and not marked up at all.

Again, the dealer sets the final price - case-in-point, if you are entitled to GM supplier price, you would pay that on the base car, then add the $18,500 for the Callaway content, plus any other Callaway options added.

I hope this helps

Thanks for getting the thread back on track.

My experience was my dealer was happy to honor GMS on the vehicle then full boat on the dealer and Callaway ads.

It's unfortunate the FL dealer and/or salesman blamed their agreement with Callaway rather than be honest about wanting MSRP for the car. It may reflect poorly on Callaway in the eyes of the would be customer and just may prevent them from pursuing with another dealer.

My suggestion was to contact Criswell.

 

[hotshotzny]

Go to Kerbecks site. They are discounting coups $ 10k.

if you are buying a vette and live withing reasonable distance of that place then take the trip!! i went to kerbeck the last time i was in AC and could not believe how many cars they have in stock... and they can make deals....i came soooo close

 

[fullcontrol]

if you are buying a vette and live withing reasonable distance of that place then take the trip!! i went to kerbeck the last time i was in AC and could not believe how many cars they have in stock... and they can make deals....i came soooo close

Is Kerbeck selling Callaways?

 

[*89x2*]

Is Kerbeck selling Callaways?

No, and as one customer found out, the low buy offer on their trade, actually made the "deal" more expensive in the long run...

 

[fullcontrol]

Go to Kerbecks site. They are discounting coups $ 10k.

I don't think anyone is having problems finding good deals right now at any dealer nation wide. This specific member was interested in purchasing a 2008 Callaway SC580 from an authorized dealer without being asked to pay MSRP for the base vehicle.

Since Kerbecks is not a Callaway distributor it really doesn't matter what they are discounting.

 

[fullcontrol]

No, and as one customer found out, the low buy offer on their trade, actually made the "deal" more expensive in the long run...

If the new car is being heavily discounted because of market conditions, one would have to expect the same regarding their trade.

 

[*89x2*]

If the new car is being heavily discounted because of market conditions, one would have to expect the same regarding their trade.

...but for some reason, this concept is not understood. When you get a new car for invoice (or close) the dealer will give you wholesale for your trade. That is generally how it works.

If you pay full boat for a new car, the dealer is more generous with the trade allowance, but it is a shell game. Lots have been written about this subject. It is why we as consumer generally dislike buying cars. Find me an honest deal any day over the shell games, and I am sold.

 

[Chrisr]

Fullcontrol, if your looking for a Callaway, my local dealer here in NJ is a Callaway dealer. They're Classic Chevrolet in Moorestown NJ. You could give 'em a try if you'd like.

 

[jonstr]

I don't think anyone is having problems finding good deals right now at any dealer nation wide. This specific member was interested in purchasing a 2008 Callaway SC580 from an authorized dealer without being asked to pay MSRP for the base vehicle.

Since Kerbecks is not a Callaway distributor it really doesn't matter what they are discounting.

Except that, if I'm not mistaken, it isn't required that you buy a Callaway from an authorized DEALER. I believe you can purchase your Corvette at any dealer, and work with Callaway directly on the conversion. The difference would probably be that the car would not be drop shipped to Old Lyme, but if the deal is good enough, you could more than cover shipping.

 

[fullcontrol]

Except that, if I'm not mistaken, it isn't required that you buy a Callaway from an authorized DEALER. I believe you can purchase your Corvette at any dealer, and work with Callaway directly on the conversion. The difference would probably be that the car would not be drop shipped to Old Lyme, but if the deal is good enough, you could more than cover shipping.

I'm sure that's his "Plan B", but his original interest was/is to purchase a completed/delivered unit from an authorized dealership.

 

[fullcontrol]

...but for some reason, this concept is not understood. When you get a new car for invoice (or close) the dealer will give you wholesale for your trade. That is generally how it works.

If you pay full boat for a new car, the dealer is more generous with the trade allowance, but it is a shell game. Lots have been written about this subject. It is why we as consumer generally dislike buying cars. Find me an honest deal any day over the shell games, and I am sold.

The shell game used by this FL dealer involved placing the blame on Callaway having tied their hands. Certainly, not honest.

 

[TurboLuigi]

Interesting thread.

The dealer underestimates the troubles that customers will go through to save some money. It is reasonable for the dealer to not discount the Callaway component on the car but I think he would make the same consessions on the base car that he would to move any regular Corvette on the lot.

The dealer doesn't realize that a customer might be capable of finding a dealer closer to Callaway, buying the base car at a discount and shipping the car to Callaway for conversion thus cutting him out of the deal.

For a $1-2K (or more savings), it seems like a reasonable action a customer might take.

-Luigi
:cool

 

[fullcontrol]

Interesting thread.

The dealer underestimates the troubles that customers will go through to save some money. It is reasonable for the dealer to not discount the Callaway component on the car but I think he would make the same consessions on the base car that he would to move any regular Corvette on the lot.

The dealer doesn't realize that a customer might be capable of finding a dealer closer to Callaway, buying the base car at a discount and shipping the car to Callaway for conversion thus cutting him out of the deal.

For a $1-2K (or more savings), it seems like a reasonable action a customer might take.

-Luigi
:cool

Right now I think the savings will be closer to $8k on a deal.

 

[fullcontrol]

Just received an update from the forum member looking for the Callaway of his dreams. My guess is the dealer may have received a mystery call from someone.

Here's one for you if you believe in coincidence: Rec'd call from the dealer around 6PM EST last nite and they offered me the car @ considerable discount, so they have now begun to negotiate. Makes me wonder if they heard from someone on that forum