Gm suckered C6 owners!

[motorman]

You happen to be right about the red even though l had fewer vettes, two white ones, one forest green and now a Torch Red one.

My next one will be definitely red.

But the other colors look good too but not as sharp, if a Ferrari isn't red then it's not a Ferrari.

We are getting off the subject.

my 64 was also red but had a white interior. the fellow that owns it now installed a red interior. my 97 and 99 were also red but the 97 had the black and the 99 had the tan interior

 

[jimcarden]

Humbug!

Sounds to me like the fellow that thinks "us C6 owners" got suckered, is just plain jealous! I've had several previous Vettes, & I can tell you with out reservation...."This is by far the best one ever!" All the creature comforts (mines loaded with every option), pleanty of poop, & everybody stairs. Not bad, huh? Eat you heart out sucker!

By the way, I paid MSRP even though the dealer wanted 16K over, Can you imagine? Oh well, guess there's a sucker born every day?

 

[JBsC5]

Sounds to me like the fellow that thinks "us C6 owners" got suckered, is just plain jealous! I've had several previous Vettes, & I can tell you with out reservation...."This is by far the best one ever!" All the creature comforts (mines loaded with every option), pleanty of poop, & everybody stairs. Not bad, huh? Eat you heart out sucker!

By the way, I paid MSRP even though the dealer wanted 16K over, Can you imagine? Oh well, guess there's a sucker born every day?

Jim,

Congratulations on your awesome new Corvette...The best yet for sure...

Certainly an amazing car. Best of luck with each and every mile..

You lucky dog!

JB

 

[smook]

As for driving around with the windows down and the radio off...hell, I drive my Corvette with the windows down and the radio off. Not because I can't hear the radio when I turn it on, but because the sound of the engine and exhaust is too glorious to spoil with garbage from a radio.

RIGHT ON! BUT THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
My new C6, with the windows down, there's NOT a single hint it's a corvette. It SUCKS.
There's no sound. Wait, it now sounds like a Honda Accord. ALL THE FUN IS GONE. Computer screens/programs/interfaces everywhere. Nothing raw and no edge left.

It's the new CADDY CORVETTE. I am really dis-liking my new C6, ride and all.

-Bill.

 

[kingman]

It's Not the Money!

Yes that's a normal reaction that l expected earliar on but it's the furthest thing from the truth.

If l wanted a C6, it would be in one of my bays already. To go out and pay that kind of money l want something special and the 05 C6 is special but the 05 Z-06 is really special.

I have enough cars if you listen to my wife but it's not always about the money. I own multiple homes and cars and l do not owe a penny on them because if l cannot pay cash, l don't want them.

It's all about values and my yoounger son's wedding coming up this April. That alone could have bought a new C6 plus.

So think before you speak.

This forum is not about what you or l have, but what we love. And l hope it's pure Corvette's.

The new C6 is a fantastic machine with all the creature comforts you can think of and with the speed to match.

The newer C6 Z06 is the same with only 100hp more which l do not need but there are a lot of vette owners who would kill for one.

Alan

p.s. I hope nobody was offended by earlier remarks because if you were then l'm really sorry.

 

[JBsC5]

Alan,


Way cool! Just having good corvette conversations...

Congratulations to your son on his upcoming wedding...

He told me he wants your corvette as his wedding present..and that you need to get yourself one of those new fangled C6 Z06's that are coming out shortly..



Have a good one and you never know..........

That C6 might just be in your future....but you said it best...no matter what type of corvette a person owns....its all part of a big family out there..

I think the corvette community is very cool and these forums are the best.

Happy holidays.

JB

 

[Terry Holtz]

>>>>>>>An LS-7 on the option sheet for the Convertible would be a hell of a lot better in my opinion !<<<<<<

Hell yeah! If I can get the new zo6 motor in a c-6 vert... I just might go back into debt. Otherwise, my c-5 vert and I will be together for a long time.

 

[the dean]

RIGHT ON! BUT THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
My new C6, with the windows down, there's NOT a single hint it's a corvette. It SUCKS.
There's no sound. Wait, it now sounds like a Honda Accord. ALL THE FUN IS GONE. Computer screens/programs/interfaces everywhere. Nothing raw and no edge left.

It's the new CADDY CORVETTE. I am really dis-liking my new C6, ride and all.

-Bill.

I find it difficult to understand that you did not know what you were getting. All of the analysis and write-ups made fairly clear just what the new Corvette would be like. As I have stated before , this is the best one of the four that I have owned--and I was not surprised at what I got. The articles by Hib Halverson were particulerly illuminating.

 

[kingman]

AH! The love a vette!

It happens to be very amusing that you hear from different owner's their personel likes and dislikes for specific years.

One of our forum members just switched from a C4 to a C5 and really missed his C4, but l'm sure in time he will get used to it.

Or a C3 owner shaking his head and saying that his vette is the perfect vette while the rest are just another vette with too many options and creature comforts. Or it's no longer a sportscar.

It's really only important that you love what you have no matter what the reason as long as it works.

As far as not liking things about the new C6, that's a stretch but some guys like women with b-g chests and some don't. Or some women like tall men or big men.

l'm sure that he will get used to the new C6, and better yet he should take a ride in an early C3 and then get back into his C6. No disrespect to the early C3, it's a beauty.

Alan

P.s. We must respect everybody's opinion no matter what it is without taking it to heart.

 

[WhalePirot]

Not Suckered... I bought a C-6 knowing that the Z06 was nigh

I am really disliking my new C6, ride and all.

While I am agreeing, as if it matters, with nearly everyone on this thread, I felt as SMOOK did, after less than a day. I feel SO lucky that the dealer asked for the Blk/Blk Z-51 back. Man-o-man; a free, pleasurable lesson!

The new Vette can be a very different car from the earlier ones, despite the excellent pieces posted here, before the car hit the dealers. The C-6's man/machine interface is great if that's what you want in this car, but for MY Corvette taste, which is different than yours (or for what I want in a car for 'non-Corvette' driving) the touch-screen is OUT.

Chevy has broadened the appeal of the car with the move towards luxury, partly because most of the buyers are older. What remains, for what I will call 'more performance minded' buyers is, sadly and once again, too limited for me to buy, despite the performance/cost balance. It's still a lot of dough for a toy. If I am to be enticed into dropping $60k+, I want it my way with Vette #7. Such was the case for me with the lack of a C-5 Z06 Vert.

Maybe GM is getting a clue by building the new performance engine plant and by offering the other, dealer-added items; trying to cash in on the aftermarket tailoring many of us do to our cars. That, however, clashes with the current iteration of packaging options, discussed on another thread.

Again, if I am to be enticed into dropping $60k+, I want it my way.

 

[kingman]

Well Said!

Whalepilot

I happen to agree with you 100%. Most of the vettes coming in today and for that matter for some time have been preordered by the dealership. Not that there are that many options like they used to have.

I would love to outfit my own vette to my tastes. Somethings l really do not need or care for.

Alan

 

[wishuwerehere82]

If anybody here is really that disappointed with their C6, they could give it to me. I promise I won't be let down.:L

 

[MoeJr]

The C5 and C6 are great cars but they have become more of a GT than a sports car. I sat ina C6 a few weeks ago and it is nice but there just isn't that connected feeling like I get in a C4 or earlier Vette. When I get into my 84 I feel like I am putting on something as it envelops you. The C5 and C6 just seemed to airy for me. All Vettes are nice cars and I love them all but for my money C4 and earlier just ooze sports car to me.

:bar

 

[Z51 Coupe]

Discounts

Buds in St Marys is discounting $3000 on C6's in stock for December only.

 

[Rob]

Wow...this certainly has turned out to be a pretty cool thread with a lot of great comments and observations made.

I've never had the chance to drive a C5 or a C6, but I have rode in both. My biggest complaint about both is the lack of exhaust sound. Now, I'm not saying that GM should come back with an "off road exhaust" option (AKA side exhaust), although admittedly, it would be kind of cool, but give the car some growl.

That's one of the things I love about the ZR-1. If I may be so blunt....the car has some "vocal testicles." It not only looks aggressive, and performs aggressively, it sounds aggressive. There is no mistaking the unique sound of a ZR-1 - especially at wide open throttle. Hence my reason for not having any desire to drive my own and spoil the experience by listening to a radio.

When I first got into a C5, my first observation was that the sound was too refined; too quiet. Same with the C6 - although I have to admit, the C6 prototype I rode in did sound like it was a little more aggressive than the C5 -but hard to tell without riding in both one after the other. I've heard the C5 Z06 sounds much better - but other than a 5-10 mph "test-jaunt" over a pot-hole marked back road behind a dealership in a 2004 Z06 - I've never really experienced one.

So why are the newer Corvettes more quiet? I'm going to stick my head out on a limb and say that it's probably due to two reasons:

1. Marketing: GM's proposed customer base for the Corvette is older - with more sensitive ears.

2. European exhaust sound regulations. GM has been trying to aggressively infiltrate the European market with the Corvette. In order to do so, GM needs to manufacture Corvettes that meet European rules/regulations, laws, etc.

If #2 is a legitimate reason, then it would be nice if Corvettes built for export could have a unique exhaust system specific to European sound regulations, and Corvettes built for U.S. sales came with a more unrestrained exhaust sound. I believe Ferrari does this....BMW does this, and probably several other automotive manufacturers.

If stock Ford Mustangs off the showroom floor can sound incredibly awesome, then Corvettes should as well.

Yesterday afternoon I was shopping in a well-to-do part of Boston. As I was walking down the street, I heard the most incredible sound coming from behind. I had to turn my head back to look, and as I did, a bright red Ferrari 360 Modena was accelerating from a stop light. The Corvette should have that same effect. Before it makes it's appearance, it should make its presence known.

 

[Heavy Duty]

The absolute best times of my life in performance cars have been spent at dusk or after dark driving back rural roads alone. Me and the car. Nobody to be better than, nobody to race, nobody to look down on because they only had the small block while "I" had the tripower, and NO women admiring me or my car!!!!!!!!!!

OLDGOAT, couldn't agree with you more on the crusing down the back roads, with the windows down, looking up at the moon through the glass roof (or no roof). This is if I am in the C-4. Although I do have a C-5 Zzz, the C-4 still is a special car. The C-4 has it's short comings when compared to the Zzz, but then again the Zzz has it's short coming when comparied to the C-4, such as a solid top Vs targa top. I really like crusing with the C-4 at night during the summer with the top off:cool . Me and my vette. Sometimes I do have the radio on or the "Stones" tape in listening to "Satisfaction". Most of the time I have it off because I do like listening to the exhaust song better. I just have to keep the right foot under control. I will say that the stock C-4 exhaust sounds much better then the stock Zzz exhaust. But that is my opinion.

The Zzz may some day be sold...but the C-4 will always have a home.

H.D.

 

[bobby1]

That's right, just think about it, they seduced us with the new C6 with 400hp and then they come out with a new Z06 with 500hp. Well at least you were king of the hill for a couple of months and now just another vette.

The Z06 with 500hp is going to be a screamer and the people in the know will step out for one. What a waste of money but thats show biz.

And to make matters worse somew C6 owners actually paid over sticker price while Kerbeck in Atlantic City, New Jersey is discounting them by $1500.

This tells you something.

Alan

Suckered? Only living on mars would you not know that the NEW Z06 would have 500 ponies! How was your trip back to earth?

 

[Dad]

What's sensitive?

So why are the newer Corvettes more quiet? I'm going to stick my head out on a limb and say that it's probably due to two reasons:

1. Marketing: GM's proposed customer base for the Corvette is older - with more sensitive ears.

More sensible ears may be more appropriate, rather then battered by the music I hear today. I to have turned to look at a car coming down the street, more because I feel the vibrations than music(?).

You really need to drive a C6 at full throttle and then tell us what it is like. If you ever get in the area let me know I don't put it away in the winter. I bought it to enjoy, that means to drive, not just to own. Had it less than 3 months and it's been to the Carolinas twice and headed to Flor-duh in January.

 

[67HEAVEN]

If I may be so blunt....the car has some "vocal testicles."

So it's "vocal" you like, is it?
CLICK

 

[Rockatansky]

Rockatansky:
'Red Barchetta" huh? I've probably heard it before but I can't place it. What are some of the words? Jog my memory....
I'll definitely have to listen to that on the radio.
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lone73
'73 4spd coupe... F/I-ZZ4

(hopping off topic for a moment)

Lone73,

It's by those Canucks Rush on their "Moving Pictures" LP. An absolute must-play for any driving enthusiast. To this day it still gives me chills (and makes my right foot heavier) even though I've easily heard that song 1000 times. The story is great too, even better than the short story on which it was based: "A Nice Morning Drive" by Richard S. Foster, originally published in Road & Track from 1973. While the original story is an interesting but chilling look at the safety-nazis of the future, the song is more like a full-on celebration of the real joy that only a driving enthusiast knows, and the beauty and excitement of a good car. To quote some of my favorite lines:

I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car.
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better, vanished time.
I fire up the willing engine,
Responding with a roar.
Tires spitting gravel,
I commit my weekly crime...

I love that! Makes the car sound like a participant - an accomplice... Damn, I can almost see the car pulling out of the barn it was hiding in. Sorry, but I've got to say Ford nailed that feeling with that Steve McQueen commercial.

Wind in my hair-
Shifting and drifting-
Mechanical music- {I know exactly what Rob was talking about! - Roc.}
Adrenalin surge...

Well-weathered leather,
Hot metal and oil, {Hot plastic? - Roc.}
The scented country air.
Sunlight on chrome,
The blur of the landscape,
Every nerve aware.

Dang, if that ain't some poetry to me. Describes what I feel whenever I'm behind the wheel of the right car and NOT commuting.

I spin around with shrieking tires,
To run the deadly race,
Go screaming through the valley
As another joins the chase.

Drive like the wind,
Straining the limits of machine and man.
Laughing out loud
With fear and hope, I've got a desperate plan.

For my money, I can't find a better driver's song. And really, I've looked! I just dare ya to pop this one into your Vette's CD (tape?) player and run through your local twisties. It's more like the soundtrack to the Driver's soul running free, in time with his machine of course. Never mind that the original story was about an MG, and the song is about a Ferrari (?) (or Fiat?) Dunno - but it doesn't really matter. The song is clearly about the emotion and the passion, not the wheels.

Of course, I bet it's really really good when the wheels belong to a C6-Z06.

FWIW, this song is likely stored on my webspace somewhere. Now what was that address.....

Ooops! Sorry to jack the regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.