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Radar detector...which one??

I'm always curious of the "arrows are better" statement. Don't you slow down if you get an alert? Or do you check the arrows first and then slow down risking a ticket?
The arrows are great for when you are coming up on an active speed trap. With the exception of laser, the signal will grow stronger or weaker as you approach it (or vice versa). The arrows let me know if it's coming up from behind me, from a side street, or in front of me. It also helps me when used in conjunction with the "bogie counter", as if I'm in a clear section of road and it lights up with I'll know exactly (give or take) where the signal is coming from. Is it a hidden po-po or just a a motion detector of a storefront's auto-opening doors?
They also work in this situation, which I've also encountered:
I'm driving along the highway. Radar starts going wild. (1) lights up on the bogie counter and the arrow's point up ahead. A little further up, "ah ha!" a copper targeting from the median break. However, I as pass him, a (2) pops up on the counter and now I have an arrow pointing back AND in front still. A new signal? Sure as ****, there's another cop just up ahead waiting for all the traffic that is speeding up thinking they've passed the speed trap. But I knew better! Without the arrows or the bogie counter, all I woulda had was a single signal and no reference to it's location. The person with the regular detector woulda just assumed it as the signal he just passed that was still setting off the alarm. Sucks to be him!
Here's another example that's happened to me: There's this long sweeping curve on the highway that always causes my bogie detector to display 3 signals. What they are is traffic sensors for the traffic off the highway, over this bridge. One day I'm rolling through there and I notice the usual signals, but my counter reads (4). A new signal? YUP! Ol' Mr. Policeman sitting around that bend tagging people. With a normal detector, I would've expected just the normal sounds and said, "Ahh, regular false alarms. Keep on truckin," and that dude is gonna get tagged. With the V1, I knew there was an abnormal signal and I slowed down, correctly as it turns out.

These are not relayed stories or any that I've read. These are my actual experiences and in my book they alone are worth the price of admission for a V1. Think about it...if it saves you just ONE ticket from a scenario like that above, then it's already paid for the difference between itself and any other detector. Money well spent in my book.

Having the arrows is like having high-speed internet. Once you've had them and used them, you'll wonder how you ever got along without 'em!
To answer your question, "Do you slow down first?" Yes, always slow down first and then check your surroundings. Doing it the other way around makes no sense.

And there's also this to consider....No radar/laser detector is foolproof. You still need to use your eyes first when you drive. When an officer has instant-on, the only thing that is going to save you is your eyes. Because at that point, it's who sees who first. If he sees you first, all your detector is going to do is let you know that you just got tagged/busted, as was the case last month when I got busted doing triple-digits down the turnpike. ;shrug :L
 
I agree! Could not of said it any better. Valentine1 is the way to go. You even have some additional accessories to chose from for your Valentine1.
 
Andre, thanks for the information on the V1. Here's some info on the Escort.

Many people assume the Escorts are "regular" detectors and that they aren't capable of tracking more than one signal. The Escorts (8500 and 7500) have an Expert Mode that allows you to track up to 8 signals plus the relative signal strength of each signal individually. The V1 provides a number for signals and the strength of the strongest one. I'm not sure how many different signals the V1 can track, but the Escort can track 4 X (who cares, right?), 2 K and 2 Ka.

I'm offering this information to help those understand the full capabilities of the Escort. I have been very happy with mine for a 3 years.
 
Andre, thanks for the information on the V1. Here's some info on the Escort.
Do you ever find your Escort being triggered from top mounted brakelights, such as those on GM SUV's? There's a real small portion of the light spectrum that they emit that causes the V1 to sound off. I thought maybe my unit was just whacked, but then I found out that it's a not-uncommon experience. Explanation from Valentine.
 
All the time and it's annoying. There are times I wish I could turn off the Laser detection. ;) Of course I haven't gone through the manual to see if I can disable it.
 
All the time and it's annoying. There are times I wish I could turn off the Laser detection. ;) Of course I haven't gone through the manual to see if I can disable it.
You might be able to. I know I can on the V1. But since I still pick up other cars being tagged by laser, I leave it enabled.
 
I just did a 3500 mile round trip in my 84 a couple weeks ago and my Escort 8500 X50 save me from a minimum of 22 tickets. I use the programmable expert mode that allows tracking of multiple signals. It also gives enough warning of laser "scatter" in traffic to get slowed down in time.
 
Radar

I will admit at times it is nice to know what direction the "Bogey" is coming from, but @ 80mph ( or so) does it matter?, the brakes will be hit!!!

Bottom Line.....signal Strength high you WILL slow down right ..left ..rear ..front

I now use the 8500

Marty
 
Interesting that this thread came around and today my V1 just impressed me again. (Hasn't done that in quite some time since I'm used to it...)

I'm going down the turnpike, around a wide bend. Laser detection goes off. I slide a little to the left to look down the berm. I don't see anything around the corner. Then again as the the corner starts to straighten out. Laser detection goes off again. Slide over again and now slow down. Sure enough, copper in the median break tagging people.

The only thing I can think of is that the car in front of me scattered enough of the laser signal for me to pick it up around the corner. Pretty cool! And I'd say pretty damn sensitive too! :upthumbs

Speaking of laser... at night, has anyone ever noticed the little orange flash that is sometimes seen as they are targeting people? It's weird, but I'm positive on occasion as they are tagging people, when they pull the trigger, I'll see an exceptionally brief orange/amber flash from the front of the laser gun.
Anyone else noticed this??? :confused
 
Andre, many reviews or opinions I read of the V1 state that the box is too chatty and gives overkill annoyance detection. They say if you like a lot of alerts, buy the V1. Some also say the V1 is 1995 technology and has not changed much. What's your opinion?

I haven't heard anyone mention the Escort 9500i. Sounds lilke it has some very nice features.

From their website:
  • 360-degree radar and laser detection
  • Blistering All-Band Protection
  • New Variable-Speed Radar Performance
  • New GPS-Powered Truelock™ Filter - View Demo
  • New Mark Location Features - View Demo
  • New Speed Alert
  • New Crystal-Clear Voice Alerts
  • New Intelligent Volume Control
  • User-Selectable Preferences
  • High-Resolution Display
  • 5 Levels of Brightness Control
  • Completely immune to the VG-2 "detector-detector"
  • Mute, AutoMute & SmartMute
  • Built-in Earphone Jack
  • Safety Warning System
 
Andre, many reviews or opinions I read of the V1 state that the box is too chatty and gives overkill annoyance detection. They say if you like a lot of alerts, buy the V1. Some also say the V1 is 1995 technology and has not changed much. What's your opinion?
I know it has gone through some revisions since I purchased mine. I don't think it's been entirely cosmetic, but maybe. :confused I bought mine back in...1996?? It was really close to when they first added in the laser ability. Anyways...

(I'll only speak on what mine does, as I don't know if the current shipping model functions differently)
It has 3 main modes which affect it's sensitivity.
  • The first, "A", gives you all alerts at the main volume setting of the unit. You can then 'mute' the volume by hitting the main knob.
  • The second, "L", shows all the alerts, but alerts at the muted volume.
  • The third, "l", only alerts on the laser, and only when the radar signal is very strong and consistent. I don't use this mode because by the time it alerts to a radar signal, it would be too late to react.
It is also possible to more finely tune the characteristics of the unit, but I've never delved that far into it. I use it primarily in "A" mode and simply mute the false alerts. If I'm in a heavy commercial area, I'll switch over to "L" mode so they are automatically at the muted volume.

As far as it being overly chatty, I'd rather have than then not as sensitive. It's still up to the end user to rely first and foremost on his eyes. I never drive blind. I'm always scanning for fuzz.

As for the "old technology" comment. Well, I can't really comment because I don't know the inner workings. But I would think that in terms of radar detection, I wouldn't think that there have been many developments in radar guns since the inception of laser/lidar. And laser is pretty much "as is". But I really don't know. I'm not as technically hip as I was in my younger days. :L All I know is that my unit still works as good as I expect it to.

As a side note to the whole 'old technology' thing, I do recall reading when I was first researching detectors (10 year ago?) that as manufacturers added features, it seemed that their detection abilities were decreasing. The V1 was noted as being pretty much the only one that didn't lose detection sensitivity, among other things they noted about differences between newer models from various manufacturers.

I would buy one again in a heartbeat.
 
A Beltronics Review

Just purchased the Beltronics 65 as reviewed on Radarbusters. Bought it for a trip to Kentucky around Memeorial day. I've never used one but if the thread is still around when the trip is over I'll post a review from a novice.
 
Radar detectors

Consider the BEL Pro RX65 It tracks multiples in all modes either with just sound, or display and sound, Picks up any and all to date safety warning radar signals, and already is ready for the euro KU bands which are the next to be deployed in this contry. Monitors system voltage too. I use this and a M20xtreme laser jammer and find the combination very high performance. Way more than enough time to respond to ANY radar or laser sources. My bel mounts low to my dash with the hard wired service coming up through the vent slot......and still easily finds all rear threats.....I know I am impressed. And it wont break your wallet either. Fairly well hardened against heat......I did leave it up there for a hot day once....I thermally shuts itself off, and just as the instructions suggest.....I left it in a cool spot for a day and it came right back on.......anyway......works great for me....

Geoff
 
Learning Curve - A New Thread?

Went out last Saturday night for a little Corvette therapy and ran my detector. There is a section in the manual about " interpretation" of alerts and I can see why. It probably alerted 10 times in 100 miles. Six of those times I saw the LEO responsible but was in no danger of being caught. It is apparrent to me that they drive around with their radar on continuously. One very strange alert. Got behind a couple of cars at less than the limit. Came over a hill and spotted two sherriffs sitting by the road. No alert until i got right up in front of them. POP radar? If so, why did they bother? It should have been obvious we were well within the limit. Does POP radar pop automatically? My brother insists that detectors don't protect you they just tell you when you get caught. How about a thread for radar detector use and utility?
 
If you can afford it get the Valentine 1.

The arrows man love the arrows.


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