Reflections on Carlisle and the 2005 C6 Corvette

[wishuwerehere82]

This is Vicki!!
Not exactly Reese Witherspoon.

 

[richscorvettes]

Rob,

Looks like we missed one another but, with all the crowds around Carlisle, that's easy! :L Friday and Saturday seemed to be even busier than some other years.

We were parked under the Meguiars tent with the 67 this year which helped to keep the sunburn down some. It didn't do much though for the rain storm on Saturday. They were taping an interview to be used for a one hour special on Carlisle, which will appear on SpeedVision sometime in February, and were only two minutes into it when the skies opened up!

Rich Lagasse

 

[Rain]

Vicki is Kerbeck's top Corvette salesperson.
They did a great paint job, except for the color.

Thanks for the 411!

And yea, Great! Great paint job on that C6.

 

[JohnyH]

First time to Carlisle and I enjoyed everything about the show. Watched the baseline on the Dyno on the new C6 and noted the color of Vicki's C6? The only problem on my trip was the slight overheating on Saturday, my 88 needs a little cooling work! I'll be sure to go again next August!

A great show!

 

[65 & 04 Z06]

The Z16 you picked was ours. Thank you very much, we appreciate it. Was really surprised to see the sticker on the car when we got back to the car that afternoon, after the rain, it seemed like it rained 10 inches. This was our fourth visit to Carlisle and it gets better every year.

When we first attended, we arrived on Friday afternoon and had no problem getting in. It has grown so much now that Fridays are even busier than Saturdays were in the past. Now more people are there on Thursday as well.

Will be traveling to Bowling Green this weekend, maybe see you there.

Thanks again.

 

[UB2 SLOW]

The Z16 you picked was ours. .

Congraduations

 

[Rob]

The Z16 you picked was ours. Thank you very much, we appreciate it. Was really surprised to see the sticker on the car when we got back to the car that afternoon, after the rain, it seemed like it rained 10 inches. This was our fourth visit to Carlisle and it gets better every year.

When we first attended, we arrived on Friday afternoon and had no problem getting in. It has grown so much now that Fridays are even busier than Saturdays were in the past. Now more people are there on Thursday as well.

Will be traveling to Bowling Green this weekend, maybe see you there.

Thanks again.

You guys have a beautiful Z06. Enjoy it! And enjoy your trip to Bowling Green.

 

[redhead220]

My First Carlisle Experience!

Corvettes at Carlisle 2004 has come and gone, and once again, it was one of the best Corvette events I've ever been to. The weather was extremely hot and sticky, but well worth it.

I left early Friday morning, and drove up with Bob Radke, owner of the 1967 FSO Corvette that was featured in Corvette Fever, Vette, and the NCRS publications a few months ago, as well as one of James Garner's L88 Corvettes and a ZR-1. We spent the entire drive up chatting about Corvettes and ZR-1s which really made the trip fly by.

I was hoping to bring my ZR-1 with me, but decided not to at the last minute. The tires are begging to be replaced. I've been running BFG Comp TAs for the last 6+ years and there isn't much tread left on them. The driver's side front tire is also wearing abnormally fast on the outside indicating that there is a possible suspension problem. Rather than making the problem worse or possibly getting stuck, I decided to take my truck.

Where it really bothered me not to have the ZR-1 with me, was Route 94 that runs between Rt. 15 in Maryland, and Rt. 34 in Carlisle. When you first get on Rt. 94, it runs through a very tiny town and the posted speed limit is 35mph. It only takes a minute to run through the town, when all of a sudden, rolling hills of farmland appear, the road opens up, long and straight and the speed limit jumps up to 50mph. Because of the hills, the road is constantly disappearing in front of you as you come to their crests. With the ZR-1, I simply set the FX3 to "Perf" (firmest setting available), downshift, and literally enjoy one hell of a rollercoaster ride into Carlisle. With the truck, I had to be very careful because if you hit those crests fast enough, you can literally catch air, and your stomach suddenly gets very light.

I'd love to take a 2003/2004 C5, or C6 equipped with Magnetic Selective Ride Control, and run it over Rt. 94!!!

I spent most of Friday afternoon hanging out in the GM tent surrounded by C6 Corvettes and several Corvette engineers. Daytona Sunset Orange, Precision Red and black were just a few of the colors that you could see there. The Precision Red C6 was decked out with GM's new line of Genuine Corvette Accessories which included body colored accessories for the interior. Although not my style of choice, nevertheless, they'll be popular with the owners who are looking for a cool way to modify their C6's appearance.

One of the highlights for me were a special set of wheels on one of the black C6s. The design team took a set of stock C6 rims and painted them a metallic gunmetal gray. A few aftermarket wheel suppliers have done the same thing and called it "Black Chrome." Essentially that is what these wheels looked like and let me tell you, they were AWESOME!!!! Engineers wanted to see what customer response would be like, and based upon all the comments and remarks I heard, everyone loved them and begged a few of the engineers to put them into production. I cannot agree more!

Before I continue on, I must mention, there were a couple Cadillac XLRs parked outside the Fairgrounds and it was the first chance I've had to see them in person. All I can say is...."WOW!"

Cadillacs have never done much for me, but in all honesty, if I had the money to spend, there would be one parked in my driveway! What a beautiful car. In my opinion, the XLR is what the CTS should have been. The CTS looks like the sides were pushed in and the top popped up high. The XLR looks like a CTS that got stepped on and the sides got pushed out; just as it should be in my opinion. It looks fast just sitting there. The car sits low, has a low roofline and the lines are just incredible. Cadillac's latest "edge-styling" has been somewhat controversial for me, but the XLR blew any doubts away that I had. It is just awesome.

As for the C6, what more can I say that I haven't said already. The car just continues to "wow" me. No matter what color, the car looks incredible. One of the things that I noticed was that as the day wore on, and the lighting changed, various design cues would jump out at me that I had not previously seen before. A new edge here, a new crease line there would suddenly jump out. The body appears much more firm and tight overall. The new exposed headlights and front grill design give the car that special aggressive facial expression that was missing in the C5.

Inside, I continued to warm up to the interior. I was impressed with the interior of the two C6s that came to our first annual CruiseFest this past may, but the more time I spent inspecting them at Carlisle, the more impressed I became. I must also thank Keith Klobucar, Interior Vehicle Systems Engineer who has worked on both the Corvette and Cadillac performace car team for the past five years.

I spent a good 45 minutes with him going through the interior and asking him questions about how the interior was designed, etc. Folks, I can tell you that a hell of a lot of thought when into the C6's interior, and in my opinion, it shows. I think by now, most of you know me well enough to know that if I don't like something, I'll state that up front. There is very little to NOT like about the C6 interior. It's very comfortable, plenty of room for me (5'11"), controls are placed logically and efficiently within easy reach. The gauge cluster is simply awesome. The chrome trim around the gauges are a fantastic touch and give the gauges the illusion that their floating in space.

The steering wheel design is, in my opinion, much better than the C4 or C5 generations. I did hear one or two complaints about the shape of it, but honestly, I couldn't agree. I like it.

I asked Keith what was one of the major debates during the interior design phase in terms of what stays and what goes. He told me that the passenger side handle that was present in the C5 (over the passenger side airbag) was one of them. One of the things they did was to see where customers put their hands when sitting inside a Corvette. From this information, they could get an idea of how location of various items, such as door handles were important. It was this type of work and dedication that also dictated the shape of the shifter handle.

Basically, the main goal for C6 engineers was, identify the most common problems in the C5, and either fix them, or eliminate them all together. Many times during the weekend, one of the engineers walked around the C6 and indicated what some of the inherent problems were in the C5, and showed the public how they were fixed on the C6. It was this kind of demonstration that I found to be extremely valuable.

For me, it was extremely interesting to just stand back from the crowd and watch as people approached the C6 for the first time. I could have easily put a chair under the tent, and "people-watched" the whole weekend. The comments and facial expressions were very interesting, if not priceless at times!

In all honesty, I never once heard a negative comment about the car other than the shape of the steering wheel by a couple people. All I kept hearing were, "oh wow", "awesome", "this rocks", "wow, this is nice and comfortable...", "I really like this", "I've got to have one..."

At one point, I think a scene from the movie, The Godfather was played out. A group of big Italian-looking men walked into the tent and up to one of the metallic blue C6s. The guy leading the pack was an older gentleman, and looked very much like, "The Godfather." The other men were mostly silent and looking at "The Godfather" with uncertainty in their eyes. My first thought was, "ok, here it comes....he's about to slam this car in every single direction..."

Suddenly for a few seconds, it seemed like everyone held their breaths waiting to see what his response would be. As the anticipation grew, a slight smirk of mild approval came over his face and I heard, "mmmmmmmm...........I like it....." A collective sigh of relief could almost be heard throughout the tent.

I also have to give a lot of credit to all of the GM engineers that came to Carlisle this weekend. I kind of felt bad for them at times. I'm sure you've seen it over and over on TV....some kind of scenario where someone finds out that the person that they're conversing with happens to be a doctor. All of sudden you hear, "hey doc....I have this pain in my left ankle and it sort of spasms when I jump up about two feet off the ground. Do you think it could be a damaged tendon?"

They were constantly bombarded with questionslike, "when I downshift from 5th to 3rd, I hear this funny noise in my clutch...what do you think it could be?"

It was humorous at times, but I felt really bad for them. If it was me, I think after a couple hours of that, I'd want to go running out of the Fairgrounds pulling the hair out of my head and screaming. :L

Their responses were extremely professional and in my opinion, well suited for the questions they were being asked.

I also had a chance to chat with Dave Hill for about 20 minutes on Friday afternoon. Again, I can't thank him enough for chatting with me that long. The poor guy is constantly being chased by enthusiasts begging him to autograph models, pictures, etc.

All in all, I can't say enough good things about the C6, and I haven't even had the chance to drive one yet. The car just entices the hell out of me. It looks awesome from every single angle. The interior is comfortable, well thought out, and from my limited experience in a C5, a vast improvement in quality. Even closing the doors is impressive. When you close the door on a C6, you hear a muffled....."clunk" that you only hear on high-end European cars like BMW and Mercedes. It is a very soft, reassuring, solid sound.

The C5 did not have that much of an impact on me. It took me a while to warm up to it. The C6 has literally "wowed" me. I know that when I see one moving on the street, I'm finally going to be able to say "whoa" again, like I did when I first started seeing C4s on the street.

I won't sell my ZR-1 for one, but I'd give my left arm to have one parked next to it!

ariel


This was my first Carlise experience and it was quite memorable! This was only the 2nd long ride I took my '02 Electron Blue Vette on and it confirmed in my mind that the 2 jobs I work to make the Vette payment every month for this car are worth every penny! I had the pleasure & honor to attend Carlise with my brother, Richard Prince, a well-known writer for various Corvette& other automotive publications as well as a photographer for motor sport races around the world. I had the privilege to meet many interesting people including some very nice & knowledgeable folks from Zip products and got to see a fine collection of Corvettes with some very interesting histories. My only regret was not staying the whole weekend to take in all Carlisle had to offer. I am already making plans for next year and am sorry I waited so long to experience my first Carlise event.

 

[Rob]

ariel


This was my first Carlise experience and it was quite memorable! This was only the 2nd long ride I took my '02 Electron Blue Vette on and it confirmed in my mind that the 2 jobs I work to make the Vette payment every month for this car are worth every penny! I had the pleasure & honor to attend Carlise with my brother, Richard Prince, a well-known writer for various Corvette& other automotive publications as well as a photographer for motor sport races around the world. I had the privilege to meet many interesting people including some very nice & knowledgeable folks from Zip products and got to see a fine collection of Corvettes with some very interesting histories. My only regret was not staying the whole weekend to take in all Carlisle had to offer. I am already making plans for next year and am sorry I waited so long to experience my first Carlise event.

redhead,

Welcome to the Corvette Action Center. I'm a big fan of your brother even though I've never had the chance to meet him. His journalistic quality always makes me feel like I'm in the driver's seat of any car that he reviews and writes about!

 

[redhead220]

Hi Rob;

Thank you for the kind words concerning my brother. He happens to be very talented with both his photograpy and his writing. I am working for him doing some writing and although I am no slouch, I can only pray I will be able to write as well as him one day! I will be sure to mention to my brother
that you complimented him on his talents and perhaps you will meet him at a future event or race. Do you typically attend a lot of Corvette events &/or races? Let me know what future events you will be attending and I will advise my brother. Have a great day & we will chat again soon. Jamie

 

[rkreigh]

rob, next time contact me and we can caravan up in the ZR1s.

I can LOAN you a set of tires bud if you need them. (or a ZR1 for that matter if you don't want to take your car).

the ride up 15 > 94 is GREAT and sure beats going down the dull 81.

it's quicker too despite what folks will tell you, much more direct and nicer!!

It was great seeing you at carlisle, we had a fun time despite the heat and the rain. I had the 95 LSV ZR1 at both the LPE booth and the registry tent for a bit.

we had a great time on 2nd street in harrisburg at the classy little "old town" strip they have down there. I never realized how close it is to the radisson.

give me a call sometime before you move up north!!!

PS>>> us ZRoners got lots of time with Dave and I too am more impressed with the C6. improved performance, quality, and I am warming up to the design quicker than I did with the C5.

still wish they had done a "tiger shark" styling on the front, but that is an ez fix down the road. I see a c6 auto vert in my future for the Ms.

as for me, life is too short to drive anything less than the big doggie zr1.

drive it hard and often. keep the rpms and the shiney side up.