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Bose Woes CURED

jnj

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Hello All,
Are your Bose amps nonfunctional? Do you wish to keep the car in stock form?
I just replaced both non-functioning rear amps in my 91 with units I found at FRYs Electronics. The are Rockbox Model M103A amplifiers that are 4 x 2.25" and can use the same screw holes as the original. The amps are 50watts X 2 channels with high and low impedenace inputs that are adjustable. I used only one channel of each amp and left the other open for future expansion of Subwoofers. Just replace the amp, wire it all up to the existing Bose speaker and screw the assembly back into the car and VOILA - rear stereo sound again!!
The best part.........each amp was only $19.99
 
91Coupe said:
Hello All,
Are your Bose amps nonfunctional? Do you wish to keep the car in stock form?
I just replaced both non-functioning rear amps in my 91 with units I found at FRYs Electronics. The are Rockbox Model M103A amplifiers that are 4 x 2.25" and can use the same screw holes as the original. The amps are 50watts X 2 channels with high and low impedenace inputs that are adjustable. I used only one channel of each amp and left the other open for future expansion of Subwoofers. Just replace the amp, wire it all up to the existing Bose speaker and screw the assembly back into the car and VOILA - rear stereo sound again!!
The best part.........each amp was only $19.99
Wait a minute...you mean to tell me that you can just replace the factory Delco BOSE amps for a mere $19.99 each? Are they really as plug-n-play as you describe them to be? You gotta have some pictures of the install!!! Man, I would be so interested in this. Thanks for the valuable info!
 
Excellent! Just so I understand - did you replace the small amps in each speaker/amp assembly?

I just got a new aftermarket head unit and bypassed the Bose CDM unit behind the passenger seat. The low-level outputs in the new head wired right into the speaker wiring near the old CDM. The worst part was running 4 RCA leads and 5 hoookup wire leads from there to the new head unit under all the carpet. Sounds OK/good, but for just $20 each I may replace the rear speaker amps with the ones you found.
 
Yessir!

Just that simple. I did not take any pictures (my bad). Took the speaker assemblies out of the car, matched the colored wires from the connector to the amps wiring, tested, soldered and taped, replaced the assemblies, carpet, grills and drove in stereo again!
Here is a link to the amplifier
http://mobileauthority.com/productcatalog.cfm?Class=343

Note the size. Two of the screwholes on either side line right up.
 
dont see the rockbox 103 on that page you linked. Did I miss something?
 
The amp in the link is similar to the Rockbox 103. It is however, manufactured by the same people. In looking at the picture, the only difference I can see is the color. The rockbox is silver (as if it matters). The Rockbox was in a blister package that can be hung on Point of Sale Racks near checkouts. Fry's is an electronics warehouse type of store, that usually does not deal with junk or defective merchandise.
 
oh, right on! Well glad you found a cost effective remedy! Thanks for passing it along -
Rain
 
Cured the CD not working also. Best Buy has a Sony 10 disc changer ($129.00)with a good looking remote. Mounted the changer vertically near the very back of the "trunk" space. Built a full width cover with leftover wood and covered it with close to matching grey floor mats. Hot glue, spray glue and a pair if scissors is all thats necessary. The remote is a horizontal format the same blackish grey color as my dash. Velcroed it right below the radio for a very neat and clean appearance. PS the changer has a two level bass boost that really works. Even with the stock speakers, you would swear there was a subwoofer in there.
 
Hey 91Coupe
I have the same problems with my Bose system, I just ordered the amps you used, figured might as well give it a shot! You made it sound pretty easy, but I'm an electrical rookie, maybe you could post a little more detail and maybe a picture?
Do you have the model number for the CD changer you used?
Thanks!!
 
And after 2 months or so of use you have had no complaints or issues with the amps?

Thanks again
Rain
 
Rain,

No issues at all. CD changer works like a charm, the amps are still crankin' and I have not blown any speakers. Sometimes though, it can be a challenge to compete with those Ricers with subwoofers as big as their 20" rims..
 
Thanks for the update (long term test drive)!

Yea, its no competition with the ricers. Read more and more each day about how easy it is to colapse a lung from exposure to low freq. at high db. No thanks - I like my hearing and my life to much! :)

Would rather have a nice, powered clean system any day as opposed to those who choose to slowly loosen each screw on their ride with the boom boom!
 
Hey, '91. I thought I would take a chance with a Rockbox, just like you suggested. Installed it tonight, took about 90 minutes (it could have been quicker but I was very careful!). Verdict? Works great!

I didn't take any pictures, but here is what I did. (Note - this is not a recommendation, just a decription of what I did to the rear RHS speaker in a '92 vert).

There are 4 wires going to the bose speaker. I had black, orange and two shades of blue. Using a voltmeter worked out that the orange is positive, black negative (measures 12v across them when the radio is switched on).

I had no idea which of the blue wires was positive for the speaker, because the old speaker amp had blown up and I couldn't trace the old connections. Trial and error then..

(for all the connections below I used some snap-fit wire connectors that I bought 20 years ago in the UK. Just lay two pieces of wire across them, close the connector, and it connects and secures the wires. Haven't seen them in the US yet. With these, I didn't need to take the amp apart or do any soldering.). Note that the amp comes with all external wires supplied.

I decided to use the Bose speaker internal wiring loom for the connections, but can't remember exactly what colours they were. Therefore all connections described here are relative to the wires going to the bose speaker unit.

Connected orange (vette) to red (rockbox) and black (v) to black (rb). The Rockbox (rb) has a third power lead (orange) which I connected to orange (v) too. This meant the amp's green light came on when I switched on the radio.

I used an old RCA connector (the sort used on home hi-fi) and split the wire to use just the right channel. Then I split the wire again (signal and shield). I wrapped electrical tape around the shield wires so it would work with the snap-connectors. I had no idea which of the blue (v) wires was signal, so I tried it one way (which, when I first tested the amp, caused the speaker to pulse. The other way worked fine). I checked my notes and didn't record which of the wires was signal - sorry!

After that it was easy - the amp (rb) comes with speaker wires and I just connected these to the old speaker wires. The rb easily identifies + and -, the bose speaker has a "+" scratched next to one of the connectors.

The rb comes with a filter switch, I left it set to off. It also has a 'level' control. I adjusted it a few times until I was happy with the balance of sound levels between the two rear speakers.

In terms of fitting the amp inside the speaker box, I had to snap off a couple of fitting lugs from the speaker. I used two screws to hold it on - but it may not be enough in the long term so I might take it apart again over the winter and find a better way of fixing it.

Put it all back together - works great. Only two things.. I notice that the rb expects speakers with 4 ohms, I think I read somewhere that the Bose speakers are 1 ohm. Also, since I installed the amp I think I can hear electrical hum at very low volume. '91 - did you notice this too?

Anyway, this may be useful for someone. Remember, it's not a recommendation, just what I did.

Andy.
 
Hello Andy,

Glad to hear that the Rockboxes worked for you. The BOSE speakers are actually 2 ohm, hence the reason that you had to dial down the volume on the amp. Yes, I do have some high pitch noise that I can hear at low volumes. I just need to visit the local radio shack for some filters that I will attach to the amp power. As you said, I also clipped off some plastic tabs and used the two inner screws with small rubber bushing type of washers. It's not going anywhere. Everytime I twist the volume knob to the right, I just keep smiling knowing that I fixed a $125.00 problem for $20.00.
Regards,
91Coupe
 
Now, JR, find a $5 PKE fix and a 50-cent LTPWS sensor fix for us!!! :beer
 
I think your fix is great, I have a bad front amp and I am going to see if it works. Looks like it will fit. Keep you posted
 
I installed a RockBox Amp on my RR speaker, drove around all weekend testing the volume, so far AOK!! I am noticeing a slight electrical noise at the lowest volume, if someone in the know could post a filter install, all would be perfect!!
 

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